b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Crenshaw getting shored up Oregon looking to do a 5-1 'mander with the signature of the governor. Virginia redistricting is going badly and the commission has drawn what amounts to a Republican gerrymander as a compromise, killing off a democratic seat in south west Virginia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Biden is going to have 10 million more votes than Trump in 2024, and yet Trump will still win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Biden is going to have 10 million more votes than Trump in 2024, and yet Trump will still win. Jesus, he just won the damned election and we’re already predicting how he’s going to lose and who he’s going to lose to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Blue states are starting to join in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Try and do the fair and responsible thing, get completely fucked over for it. That's the Democratic way baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 sickos.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I've always liked this old splitline algorithm, or some variant, but I'd like to see data on how something like that might actually shift districts. I've also always liked the metrics used by Sam Wang at the Princeton Election Consortium. I'm sure there's a reasonable algorithmic way to solve this, if that was ever actually anyone's goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I've always liked this old splitline algorithm, or some variant, but I'd like to see data on how something like that might actually shift districts. I've also always liked the metrics used by Sam Wang at the Princeton Election Consortium. I'm sure there's a reasonable algorithmic way to solve this, if that was ever actually anyone's goal. I don't like any model that takes fairness into account. Some sort of split line works best for me. Districts shouldn't be drawn taking demographics into consideration. Redrawing districts should only really be necessary if/when the concentration of people move around within a given state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 Unless and until Republicans fully throw off their antidemocratic and racist dogmas they don't deserve a fair shot at power. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 ideally you just toss districts altogether and go proportional of vote from each state, districts are an outdated model that assumes the person you're voting for gives a shit about it, or that you give a shit about the person you're voting for other than the R/D next to their name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: ideally you just toss districts altogether and go proportional of vote from each state, districts are an outdated model that assumes the person you're voting for gives a shit about it, or that you give a shit about the person you're voting for other than the R/D next to their name. I'm inclined to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: ideally you just toss districts altogether and go proportional of vote from each state, districts are an outdated model that assumes the person you're voting for gives a shit about it, or that you give a shit about the person you're voting for other than the R/D next to their name. I feel like that's handing a lot of authority to the party power brokers. You'd essentially be voting for a party and then the party is picking the actual reps. On the R side they would all pick cronies and loyalists, on the D side you would just get milquetoast centrists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 45 minutes ago, ThreePi said: I feel like that's handing a lot of authority to the party power brokers. You'd essentially be voting for a party and then the party is picking the actual reps. On the R side they would all pick cronies and loyalists, on the D side you would just get milquetoast centrists. It would also open the door to third parties having representatives, meaning it'd be possible for neither dems or reps having a majority. So those centrist dems either have to make concessions to the GOP or a further left wing party who's members have no reason to vote for something outside their party to pass legislation or vice versa for the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 18 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Unless and until Republicans fully throw off their antidemocratic and racist dogmas they don't deserve a fair shot at power. …but wouldn’t that make you and anyone who enforced this anti democratic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: …but wouldn’t that make you and anyone who enforced this anti democratic? Oops! Only for reactionaries! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Oops! Only for reactionaries! nah you good. We’re not gonna beat this with being more Democratic while they dismantle Democratic systems. I’m coming around. Bar them from office, and imprison them if they try to protect society. Freedoms is overrated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 The paradox of liberalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 12:09 AM, Ricofoley said: Try and do the fair and responsible thing, get completely fucked over for it. That's the Democratic way baby! Democrats are still acting like this is a game with rules they need to follow. Republicans don't vie for power, they just take it incrementally. Meanwhile, Nancy claps and shows off her ice cream. 19 hours ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: nah you good. We’re not gonna beat this with being more Democratic while they dismantle Democratic systems. I’m coming around. Bar them from office, and imprison them if they try to protect society. Freedoms is overrated. And just how do you plan to do this? Red states are jusr gonna give up their power because you decided to just ban them from democracy? It's easy to say Freedom is overrated when your side is in power. Next year we'll probably have a republican house and senate, and in 2025 theres a good chance Trump is president if he's still alive. That is unless democrats start actively fighting for the people and not their donors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 20 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The paradox of liberalism It will keep being like this until we get private space colonies. One time on DS9, Julian Bashir asked how things could get so bad and the answer is that the shitbird authoritarians and libertarian paradisers hadn't yet developed the ability to literally fuck off into the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 hours ago, BloodyHell said: And just how do you plan to do this? Red states are jusr gonna give up their power because you decided to just ban them from democracy? authoritarian fascism and a secret police that rounds them all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Undo the compromise of 1887 and throw the book at the budding authoritarians and white supremacists like we tried relatively successfully to do in the 20 years after the civil war. Bring back the radical Republicans (but they're not Republicans anymore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 6:46 PM, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Virginia redistricting is going badly and the commission has drawn what amounts to a Republican gerrymander as a compromise, killing off a democratic seat in south west Virginia First order of business if the Dems hold both Chambers (not too likely at this point) and Terry wins should be to gut the commission somehow some way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Need to go for the true sicko mode gerrymander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just do a fucking popular vote like a normal goddamn country already. This shit is absurd nonsense that has no reason to exist and serves no practical function. So I guess it fits in with the rest of the dumb shit in the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 It would be perfect... if we had actual democrats in the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fizzzzle Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Asians in Texas probably vote majority republican anyway, don't quote me on that. At any rate, even though Asians make up a large voting block, there are very few places in the us where they make up a majority in any kind of area, so saying there should be an 'Asian' district in Texas is stupid. Plus I assume most of the black people in Texas live in/around Houston and Dallas, so of course they'll be underrepresented in the general population because we have a stupid district system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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