Dodger Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Maybe I’m “lucky” to live where summer lasts 9 months of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: One odd thing I've learned since moving to Louisiana is that most people here are fucking babies when it comes to heat. It hits 90 and everyone acts like they're melting. Hey I have several cubic yards of mulch where I don’t want to get a heat stroke while spreading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 On 4/19/2022 at 2:58 PM, Jason said: Also, it's 100% office space, and it's a five minute walk from a train station. Trains are for unemployed poor people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Californians could see mandatory water cuts amid drought WWW.CBS8.COM Newsom threatened Monday to impose mandatory water restrictions if residents don’t use less on their own as a drought drags on and the hotter summer months approach. Quote Water used for farming isn’t counted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 If water was being used for actual necessary farming (basic grains, etc) then I wouldn't feel as bad. But...many of the crops grown in California aren't basic grains and the like, and use far more water than standard root vegetables and grain, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 At least the Saudi alfalfa investment is protected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: If water was being used for actual necessary farming (basic grains, etc) then I wouldn't feel as bad. But...many of the crops grown in California aren't basic grains and the like, and use far more water than standard root vegetables and grain, etc. Gotta save the wine, very necessary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Ottawa had possibly the worst summer storm in its history this past week. It looks like winds may have reached 190km/h (120mph). Unbelievable. These sorts of massive storms are increasing in regularity, in Canada. Like...that's a hurricane. Ottawa storm winds reached 190 km/h: researchers OTTAWA.CTVNEWS.CA Winds in the destructive storm that hit Ottawa and the region on Saturday reached 190 kilometres per hour in some areas, researchers say. Also I love the thumbnail image of the guy in the car. "Oh great, not this again." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 120mph... rookie numbers. Speaking of, we just has a weather statement for high winds issued here. My favorite part of the state is this: Quote FIRE CONCERNS: Be fire safe and smart this busy Memorial Day weekend. If you are enjoying outdoor activities such as camping, off-roading, or BBQing, be sure to have plenty of extra water available and follow any local fire restrictions. Be extra vigilant and cautious, and don't be that guy or gal that ignites a fire this weekend. Nice touch NWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Not fire related but a natural disaster at least! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I experienced a very minor earthquake in Japan, long time ago. One of the freakiest feelings you can imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Colorado will lose half its snow, drying out, becoming more like Arizona, federal scientists conclude WWW.DENVERPOST.COM Parts of Colorado, Wyoming and Utah are drying out due to climate-driven changes in stream flows, and these states will shift to become more like the arid states of the Southwest, federal researche… Quote Parts of Colorado, Wyoming and Utah are drying out due to climate-driven changes in stream flows, and these states will shift to become more like the most arid states of the Southwest, federal researchers found in a scientific study published this week. The lead author of the study said Colorado will experience a 50% to 60% reduction in snow by 2080. “We’re not saying Colorado is going to become a desert. But we see increased aridity moving forward,” said hydrologist Katrina Bennett at the federal government’s Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. The researchers used an artificial intelligence “machine learning” system that allowed them to analyze massive amounts of data collected over 30 years including soil moisture, volumes of water in streams, evapotranspiration rates, temperature and precipitation across the varying landscapes within the Colorado River Basin. Tracking the West’s hydrology on such a scale previously would have taken years. They concluded that large losses of snow will transform high elevation areas and that the phenomenon of melting snow that creates water will disappear entirely in some areas as temperatures rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 1:33 PM, Uaarkson said: I experienced a very minor earthquake in Japan, long time ago. One of the freakiest feelings you can imagine I've experienced a couple, but not a super major one. It kind of feels like the ground turns to liquid under your feet it's pretty wild. I think the biggest one I ever felt was in Oregon in 2000 or so. I think I was around for a bigger one when I was younger but apparently I slept through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 It’s one thing for your bed to shake from side to side…but when it’s the entire world around you moving back and forth in concert…it’s just really freaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Colorado will lose half its snow, drying out, becoming more like Arizona, federal scientists conclude WWW.DENVERPOST.COM Parts of Colorado, Wyoming and Utah are drying out due to climate-driven changes in stream flows, and these states will shift to become more like the arid states of the Southwest, federal researche… Need a water knife react Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Colorado will lose half its snow, drying out, becoming more like Arizona, federal scientists conclude WWW.DENVERPOST.COM Parts of Colorado, Wyoming and Utah are drying out due to climate-driven changes in stream flows, and these states will shift to become more like the arid states of the Southwest, federal researche… This is why Jeff Grubb moved. But he moved to Ohio... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Hm wonder why owens lake went dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Hm wonder why owens lake went dry Mormon stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 57 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Hm wonder why owens lake went dry Not enough prayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Don’t worry. Instead of fighting climate change and adopting water preservation laws, they gonna build a pipeline from the ocean to Utah even though it will cost billions to build and millions to upkeep. Rescue Great Salt Lake with seawater from the Pacific? Utah lawmakers consider it WWW.SLTRIB.COM Utah lawmakers are giving serious thought to building a pipeline to the Pacific to move seawater to the shrinking Great Salt Lake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I'm just going to throw this out there, but maybe -- just maybe -- a desert area was never intended for large-scale human habitation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: Don’t worry. Instead of fighting climate change and adopting water preservation laws, they gonna build a pipeline from the ocean to Utah even though it will cost billions to build and millions to upkeep. Rescue Great Salt Lake with seawater from the Pacific? Utah lawmakers consider it WWW.SLTRIB.COM Utah lawmakers are giving serious thought to building a pipeline to the Pacific to move seawater to the shrinking Great Salt Lake. This would probably be the largest engineering feat of all time. Just to match existing evaporation you’d need to add 2.9 million acre feet of water per year. That’s 3.6 trillion cubic meters, or about 150 cubic meters per second to simply match evaporation (this is all per a quick google search or ten). If we used one large tube it would have to have a diameter of 14 meters for this volume. I didn’t consider what is coming into the lake from current natural sources but I don’t care. You’d need over 130 four foot diameter pipelines (slightly smaller in diameter than what I could find as the widest oil pipeline). You’d have a minimum distance of over 800 miles per pipeline to travel so these things would be everywhere. The energy input required would be absolutely enormous to overcome the losses due to the sheer length of the lines. but on the plus side if you’re doing this you might as well desalinate water for the entire west and Mexico as that would be a tiny fraction of the total volume of water needed for this. It has the added benefit of helping make the water entering the great salt lake the appropriate salinity as it is saltier on average than the ocean, also giving you a place to safely put the brackish waste water making the desalination process less environmentally destructive. At $500/linear foot of material cost (made up number but who cares) it would be only $350billion for the pipe materials not for install or pumps or anything else. it’s needlessly dumb, costly, and insanely large. I LOVE IT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Also I’m probably wrong on the back of the envelope math I did but let me reiterate: I don’t care. Let’s do it anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: This would probably be the largest engineering feat of all time. Just to match existing evaporation you’d need to add 2.9 million acre feet of water per year. That’s 3.6 trillion cubic meters, or about 150 cubic meters per second to simply match evaporation (this is all per a quick google search or ten). If we used one large tube it would have to have a diameter of 14 meters for this volume. I didn’t consider what is coming into the lake from current natural sources but I don’t care. You’d need over 130 four foot diameter pipelines (slightly smaller in diameter than what I could find as the widest oil pipeline). You’d have a minimum distance of over 800 miles per pipeline to travel so these things would be everywhere. The energy input required would be absolutely enormous to overcome the losses due to the sheer length of the lines. but on the plus side if you’re doing this you might as well desalinate water for the entire west and Mexico as that would be a tiny fraction of the total volume of water needed for this. It has the added benefit of helping make the water entering the great salt lake the appropriate salinity as it is saltier on average than the ocean, also giving you a place to safely put the brackish waste water making the desalination process less environmentally destructive. At $500/linear foot of material cost (made up number but who cares) it would be only $350billion for the pipe materials not for install or pumps or anything else. it’s needlessly dumb, costly, and insanely large. I LOVE IT. You forgot to also mention that there are rather large mountains in the way between the ocean and Salt Lake. That's why it's a salt lake, it's at the bottom of a big bowl. Lots of pumps needed and/or deep tunnels. The Sierra Nevada mountains are the tallest in the contiguous 48, even taller than the Rockies in many places. California has the distinction of having both the tallest and lowest point in the contiguous 48. I feel like it would only make sense (not that any of this makes sense) to pump water from the Sea of Cortez, which would mean the pump would have to run through Mexico. So forget about a border wall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Great Salt Lake - 1987 Great Salt Lake - 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Great Salt Lake - 1987 Great Salt Lake - 2021 Getting some Aral Sea vibes. At some point, someone had to edit the Aral Sea wiki page from "it is a lake" to "it was a lake". That had to be depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Fizzzzle said: Getting some Aral Sea vibes. At some point, someone had to edit the Aral Sea wiki page from "it is a lake" to "it was a lake". That had to be depressing. The Aral Sea is EXACTLY what comes to my mind as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 A related issue... Bodies Pulled From Parched Lake Mead Stir Wise-Guy Ghosts of Las Vegas - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM As climate change fuels grim discoveries across the West, Las Vegas is awash in bets on the identity of a suspected murder victim dumped in a barrel. Quote It’s the mob guy who went missing after skimming from the Stardust casino. No, it’s the lake resort manager hunted down by the Chicago Outfit. Could it be the work of a biker gang muscling in on Mafia turf? Or maybe someone just fell off a boat after one too many. Ever since the bodies started turning up this month in Lake Mead — the first in a barrel, the next half-buried in sand, both exposed by plunging water levels — theories in Las Vegas are flourishing about who they are, how they wound up in the country’s largest man-made reservoir, and what might surface next. Lynette Melvin found the second body with her sister while paddle boarding. At first they thought they had stumbled onto bones of a bighorn sheep. “It wasn’t until I saw the jawbone with a silver filling that I was like, ‘Whoa, this is human,’ and started to freak out,” Ms. Melvin, 30, said. The discovery of human remains is always a source of tragedy and potential pain for loved ones — especially when they show signs of a violent end. But in Las Vegas, a town where the seedy underbelly is part of the draw, macabre fascination and amateur sleuthing have quickly followed. As Ms. Melvin put it: “There’s a whole lot of mystery around them.” The somber findings come amid the Southwest’s driest two decades in more than a thousand years, as drought-starved bodies of water yield one surprise after another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 https://www.accuweather.com/en/videos/hailstones-pile-up-like-snow-after-severe-storm-creates-chaos-in-mexico-city/sLyQUobH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 11:28 AM, b_m_b_m_b_m said: This would probably be the largest engineering feat of all time. Just to match existing evaporation you’d need to add 2.9 million acre feet of water per year. That’s 3.6 trillion cubic meters, or about 150 cubic meters per second to simply match evaporation (this is all per a quick google search or ten). If we used one large tube it would have to have a diameter of 14 meters for this volume. I didn’t consider what is coming into the lake from current natural sources but I don’t care. You’d need over 130 four foot diameter pipelines (slightly smaller in diameter than what I could find as the widest oil pipeline). You’d have a minimum distance of over 800 miles per pipeline to travel so these things would be everywhere. The energy input required would be absolutely enormous to overcome the losses due to the sheer length of the lines. but on the plus side if you’re doing this you might as well desalinate water for the entire west and Mexico as that would be a tiny fraction of the total volume of water needed for this. It has the added benefit of helping make the water entering the great salt lake the appropriate salinity as it is saltier on average than the ocean, also giving you a place to safely put the brackish waste water making the desalination process less environmentally destructive. At $500/linear foot of material cost (made up number but who cares) it would be only $350billion for the pipe materials not for install or pumps or anything else. it’s needlessly dumb, costly, and insanely large. I LOVE IT. It would be cool tbh. Evaporation from the lake contributes to around 10% of our yearly snowfall. So it drying up completely would be pretty devastating. Less water to create snow, less snow to melt and refill the lake, and a vicious cycle continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: It would be cool tbh. Evaporation from the lake contributes to around 10% of our yearly snowfall. So it drying up completely would be pretty devastating. Less water to create snow, less snow to melt and refill the lake, and a vicious cycle continues. I've got a better idea: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: It would be cool tbh. Evaporation from the lake contributes to around 10% of our yearly snowfall. So it drying up completely would be pretty devastating. Less water to create snow, less snow to melt and refill the lake, and a vicious cycle continues. Just give me a few dozen nuclear power plants and tens of thousands of miles of pipeline and by god the west will be Great Again. If we’re going to destroy the environment anyway might as well do something cool rather than destroy it because we have to commute in cars to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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