Joe Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: There's nothing to take personally tough. I'm pretty sure he was calling Cortes the idiot not me. Just let me make my terrible Hernan Cortes joke in peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: There's nothing to take personally tough. I'm pretty sure he was calling Cortes the idiot not me. I was NOT calling you an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Joe said: Just let me make my terrible Hernan Cortes joke in peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 There's no way anyone could hate Dan Cortez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said: His last name is CORTES Apparently his dad is Colombian and overstayed a student visa, making him an anchor baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Jason said: Apparently his dad is Colombian and overstayed a student visa, making him an anchor baby. He should deport himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: He should deport himself You misspelled kill. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 NPR this morning has fully transitioned to "how will the Taliban rule Afghanistan" and had a spokesman from the Taliban on air. Steve Inskeep interviewed him and pressured him with questions like "are you going to cut the hands off people who are caught stealing" or "can women keep their jobs." So NPR has given up on the country too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, CayceG said: NPR this morning has fully transitioned to "how will the Taliban rule Afghanistan" and had a spokesman from the Taliban on air. Steve Inskeep interviewed him and pressured him with questions like "are you going to cut the hands off people who are caught stealing" or "can women keep their jobs." So NPR has given up on the country too! Those Gotcha questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 The United Arab Emirates Is Sheltering Afghanistan's Fleeing President Ashraf Ghani WWW.NPR.ORG Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said on Sunday that he had left the country to avoid further bloodshed. Quote "The UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation can confirm that the UAE has welcomed President Ashraf Ghani and his family into the country on humanitarian grounds." From the BBC: Quote Separately, the Afghan ambassador to Tajikstan has alleged that he was carrying around $169 million when he left on Sunday. He called President Ghani's flight a "betrayal of the homeland and the nation". Ambassador Mohammad Zahir Aghbar was speaking at a news conference at the Afghan embassy in the Tajik capital Dushanbe. He also announced that the embassy intended to recognise Ghani's former deputy Amrullah Saleh as the acting president of Afghanistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 CNN is being irresponsible keeping Clarissa Ward there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: CNN is being irresponsible keeping Clarissa Ward there. I can all but assure you that as a female Western journalist, she's 100% perfectly safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I can all but assure you that as a female Western journalist, she's 100% perfectly safe. Since when did you become a female western journalist? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 34 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I can all but assure you that as a female Western journalist, she's 100% perfectly safe. Nothing would bring more bombs down than any sort of violation of a white woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remarkableriots Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Afghanistan: Flag-waving protesters defy Taliban - BBC News WWW.BBC.COM Firing was heard as protesters took to the streets waving the Afghan national flag in Jalalabad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani in UAE, officials say WWW.BBC.COM The UAE says it has welcomed the president and his family on humanitarian grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 In the US, General Mark A. Milley speaking at the Pentagon said: Quote We are the United States military, and we will successfully evacuate all American citizens who want to get out of Afghanistan. That is our priority number one. The Taliban are in and around the Kabul airport, but are not interfering with our operations. There was nothing that I or anyone else saw that indicated a collapse of this [Afghan] army or this government in 11 days. You mean nothing other than everything over the last 20 years?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 And the apparently warnings from The Company. CIA warned of rapid Afghanistan collapse. So why did U.S. get it so wrong? WWW.NBCNEWS.COM With U.S. officials struggling to explain why America’s longest war ended in chaos, a series of interviews revealed there’s plenty of blame to go around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 It would appear that the IC is ready to go to war with the DoD if it appears that they will become the scapegoat for this debacle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 So did Milley fuck up? Or did Biden order Milley to damn the torpedoes and do it anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, CayceG said: So did Milley fuck up? Or did Biden order Milley to damn the torpedoes and do it anyway? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 We generally know what terrible consequences this will have for the people of Afghanistan. But is this going to become Biden's Operation Eagle Claw? Because I'm thinking this is even WORSE than Eagle Claw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, CayceG said: We generally know what terrible consequences this will have for the people of Afghanistan. But is this going to become Biden's Operation Eagle Claw? Because I'm thinking this is even WORSE than Eagle Claw... Nah - this will be "old hat" within a week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 This is well worth reading: Afghanistan, Not An Intelligence Failure — Something Much Worse WWW.JUSTSECURITY.ORG Written by the CIA’s former counterterrorism chief for the region. Quote While it’s certainly convenient to depict the shock and miscalculation U.S. officials claim over Afghanistan’s tragic, rapid fall to the Taliban as an intelligence failure, the reality is far worse. It’s a convenient deflection of responsibility for decisions taken owing to political and ideological considerations and provides a scapegoat for a policy decision that’s otherwise unable to offer a persuasive defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, CayceG said: We generally know what terrible consequences this will have for the people of Afghanistan. But is this going to become Biden's Operation Eagle Claw? Because I'm thinking this is even WORSE than Eagle Claw... Way worse, with room to get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Nah - this will be "old hat" within a week or so. Afghanistan collapsing back into some version of anarchy or despotism (or both) after a foreign power withdraws the last of its troops from a long campaign there is already about as old hat as it gets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 59 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Afghanistan collapsing back into some version of anarchy or despotism (or both) after a foreign power withdraws the last of its troops from a long campaign there is already about as old hat as it gets. yeah if anyone supported a troop withdrawal and didn’t know this would happen, they’re fooling themselves. The failure isn’t the Taliban taking Afghanistan. It’s the mismanaged and extraction where civilians and at-risk allies were not evacuated before the military pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 In what world does the Afghanistan government not collapse leaving a power vacuum when Americans start civilian withdrawal before the military pulls out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 some straight up Trump level wtf in this line from Biden Biden also defiantly defended his administration's execution of the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, saying that "he doesn't think the crisis represents a failure and there was no way to better handle the end to the nation's longest war." Biden suggests US troops could stay in Afghanistan past withdrawal deadline to ensure evacuation of all Americans WWW.CNN.COM President Joe Biden on Wednesday suggested for the first time that he's willing to keep US forces in Afghanistan until all American citizens who want to leave are out of the country, but stopped short of making the same commitment to the United States' Afghan partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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