b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 jesus christ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Well, the more-contagious UK variant is in North America: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Her name is seriously perfect for her beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chakoo Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Welp, 2 more cases (4 total now) of the UK variant found in Canada. 1 in Ottawa, Ontario and 1 in BC. =/ For the Ottawa case it was someone who came back a few weeks ago from the UK. The first 2 cases were traced back to them interacting with someone who came back from the UK recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 trump giving us death panels for the holidays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: trump giving us death panels for the holidays good knowing you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 God this party is filled with evil fucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 So even though Canada is receiving large doses of vaccines, our rollout is slow because Ontario decided it would be smart to close down vaccinations over Christmas for five days...and also closed on weekends. The Ford government is criminally incompetent: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 The Coronavirus Is Mutating. What Does That Mean for Us? - The New York Times WWW.GOOGLE.COM Officials in Britain and South Africa claim new variants are more easily transmitted. There’s a lot more to the story, scientists say. Time to start building Spoiler to hunt down the mutant menace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 america fails at governance from top to bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I mean, it's not that shocking that Russia would underreport deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Good. I expect the rest of the provinces to follow. Reserving doses, even for people to get their second dose, is dumb at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Reading this thread I can't help but think much of this lies at the feet of Mitch mcconnell. Money should have been in place months ago to set up and manage a mass vaccination program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Doug Ford's conservative government in a single tweet: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Canada has a thread. Stay in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Doug Ford's conservative government in a single tweet: Do we have enough vaccines that this is even a problem? I would assume the bottleneck is getting the vaccines, not injecting them. Healthcare workers have had a tough year so I don’t really think we should be upset that they get a few days off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Our government is an abject failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Our government is an abject failure. How are countries besides Israel doing with vaccination rollout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe said: How are countries besides Israel doing with vaccination rollout? Logistics is very hard, but it's not like we didn't know this was coming. Our issues seem to be funding, planning, and execution. Not necessarily supply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 It would be hilarious if we weren't talking about the deaths of tens of thousands, or more, due to this incompetence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, SilentWorld said: Do we have enough vaccines that this is even a problem? I would assume the bottleneck is getting the vaccines, not injecting them. Healthcare workers have had a tough year so I don’t really think we should be upset that they get a few days off. Yes there are enough vaccines. Ontario confirmed that they have received over 90,000 doses, but only 13,000 have been administered. They've had the doses for about two weeks, sitting in freezers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 This is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 11 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Doug Ford's conservative government in a single tweet: Fuck all parties in the provincial government over this. Fuck ford and the OPC but also fuck ONDP for not saying shit till after the fact, they should have been on the news calling this shit out in advance. 1 hour ago, SilentWorld said: Do we have enough vaccines that this is even a problem? I would assume the bottleneck is getting the vaccines, not injecting them. Healthcare workers have had a tough year so I don’t really think we should be upset that they get a few days off. Ontario is under vaccinated compared to all the other provinces. We have the vaccines, and we have the volunteers that were willing to work the holidays. This is all on the provintial government for their fuckup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Except for a bit of extra snottiness I seem to have basically recovered 100% at this point. My taste (again make your joke here) seems to have returned completely. The only thing I have not tried that tasted super bad is root beer. Also, the toothpaste being bad might just be because I got a bad batch of toothpaste. Or, covid has forever changed the way I taste my usual flavor of toothpaste. Because that toothpaste still tastes bad and the other tubes in the multi-pack are also bad. Like mold or something. I just got some standard cool mint aquafresh and that tastes totally normal. ngl, I was actually worried my taste loss and then my fucked up taste was going to take a really long time to recover or never really recover. My Aunt's MIL got covid like 2-3 months ago and still can taste food. And I read stories of people who have had the taste loss for over 6 months. If I would have known it would recover this quickly I probably wouldn't have even talked about it. But I have this, like, superstition where the more I complain about something the faster that issue is resolved or I feel better that I complained so I get over it. I'm just glad I'm back to my version of normal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: Except for a bit of extra snottiness I seem to have basically recovered 100% at this point. My taste (again make your joke here) seems to have returned completely. The only thing I have not tried that tasted super bad is root beer. Also, the toothpaste being bad might just be because I got a bad batch of toothpaste. Or, covid has forever changed the way I taste my usual flavor of toothpaste. Because that toothpaste still tastes bad and the other tubes in the multi-pack are also bad. Like mold or something. I just got some standard cool mint aquafresh and that tastes totally normal. ngl, I was actually worried my taste loss and then my fucked up taste was going to take a really long time to recover or never really recover. My Aunt's MIL got covid like 2-3 months ago and still can taste food. And I read stories of people who have had the taste loss for over 6 months. If I would have known it would recover this quickly I probably wouldn't have even talked about it. But I have this, like, superstition where to more I complain about something the faster that issue is resolved or I feel better that I complained so I get over it. I'm just glad I'm back to my version of normal. Nothing wrong with talking about it! I am glad you have recovered, buddy. I shall leave the taste jokes for another day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: This is bad. One of the first comments there is "Well we knew there'd be a ramp up, right?". Which is true, to an extent. But it seems the issue here is that a "ramp up" should be caused by stock shortage(like a console launch). What is happening here is the equivalent of PS5's sitting in a warehouse in Japan because Sony can't figure out the supply chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, osxmatt said: This is bad. 3.5 million per day in some perspective, proportionately my city is a bit less than 1/4 million people, so to keep pace with 3.5m/day we would need ~2500 shots/day. Meaning if there are two 7 hour shifts (14 hr/day) that's ~180/hr or ~3/minute. Assuming that you need one person to spend ~10 mins/per shot/person, you'd need more than 30 people per shift, plus some extra for admin and crowd control. So looking at maybe 100 people/day working on shots, admin, and crowd control for the next 120 days (including 20% of time extra just in case) That's $1.3m for vaccinations just in Richmond over 120 days at $15/hr. The city doesn't have that money without cutting elsewhere without federal money. Same true for everywhere else, and proportionately leads to $1.9b not counting site usage and setup and other infrastructure like coolers and deep freezers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 My mom in our little backwoods rural town gets the Pfizer vaccine tomorrow, thank God. She works in a pharmacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Basically we need to have pharmacies giving these out, not just centralized vaccination centres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: One of the first comments there is "Well we knew there'd be a ramp up, right?". Which is true, to an extent. But it seems the issue here is that a "ramp up" should be caused by stock shortage(like a console launch). What is happening here is the equivalent of PS5's sitting in a warehouse in Japan because Sony can't figure out the supply chain. The Trump administration's MO for Coronavirus has been to kick everything down to the state and local level. Maybe the Biden administration will centralize planning more and maybe do better? Is there even a plan for the general public once they get through the vulnerable and the medical workers? Or is it going to be like buying a PS5 with supplies to your area being about as clear as mud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Basically we need to have pharmacies giving these out, not just centralized vaccination centres. For some of the follow up vaccines and maybe moderna, yes. Pfizer no. There is still issues with cold storage on these early vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, chakoo said: For some of the follow up vaccines and maybe moderna, yes. Pfizer no. There is still issues with cold storage on these early vaccines. My mom's tiny family run, small town pharmacy is administering the pfizer vaccine. They have the equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The Pfizer vaccine can also be stored in regular medical freezers for a day or two if needed (or dry ice). Realistically it can also be stored there indefinitely (like the Moderna vaccine since both are similar), but Pfizer only did the trials with the extra-cold storage, so that is what they recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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