Fizzzzle Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 I ended up binging the whole season. It's easily my favorite show of this year. I haven't seen the anime in probably a decade, so it's not fresh in my mind (and I kept it that way on purpose), but the show does capture the general tone of the anime. Beautiful, stylish, and melancholic. I definitely recommend a watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: I ended up binging the whole season. It's easily my favorite show of this year. I haven't seen the anime in probably a decade, so it's not fresh in my mind (and I kept it that way on purpose), but the show does capture the general tone of the anime. Beautiful, stylish, and melancholic. I definitely recommend a watch. I liked it too. From what I recall this is a lot farther along into the Spike/Vicious/Julia plotline than in the anime, right? It pretty much got through that whole arc IIRC? So I know the showrunners were talking about wanting to expand past the stories in the anime and I guess they're going to be doing that sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 4:43 AM, elbobo said: Ed was a very "cartoony" character in the anime and trying to do that in real life is just... well just watch that clip. The actress and wardrobe and everything are dead on and it is the most cringe inducing thing I've seen in a long time. I feel like any attempt to tone down Ed so as to not be cringe-inducing would have shot directly over the line into having people complaining they messed up Ed. Maybe they should have just kept Ed as just an off-screen character the crew interacts with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jason said: I feel like any attempt to tone down Ed so as to not be cringe-inducing would have shot directly over the line into having people complaining they messed up Ed. Maybe they should have just kept Ed as just an off-screen character the crew interacts with? Ed is only in one scene. I'm sure they might treat/write Ed differently for the next season, assuming there is one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason said: I feel like any attempt to tone down Ed so as to not be cringe-inducing would have shot directly over the line into having people complaining they messed up Ed. Maybe they should have just kept Ed as just an off-screen character the crew interacts with? I guess changing the character into a more real representation of the character would count as toning down, but thats the route I would have gone with. A odd, peculiar, highly energetic kid with a severe case of ADHD. That clip is... something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Finished it today. I am not sure if the changes in the last episode are beneficial or not to the series. Overall I liked more than I disliked. Vicious and his expanded role were the low part of the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, elbobo said: Finished it today. I am not sure if the changes in the last episode are beneficial or not to the series. Overall I liked more than I disliked. Vicious and his expanded role were the low part of the series. Personally, I loved it. Spike is so much more human in this. I understand why he is the way he is in the anime, but I actually cared about Spike in the show. I cared about everyone. "Beautiful meloncholy" is how I'd describe Watanabe's works, and the show hits it on the head for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 And in case anyone thinks I'm just shilling - I EXPECTED to hate it. I was ready to hate it. It straight up swept me off my feet and knocked my head into the ground. That doesn't mean it's the best show ever, but hot fuck did it blow my expectations out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 hours ago, elbobo said: Finished it today. I am not sure if the changes in the last episode are beneficial or not to the series. Overall I liked more than I disliked. Vicious and his expanded role were the low part of the series. Agreed. They made Vicious less theatening than he is in the anime by "fleshing" him out more. And I too am not sure about the change in status quo at the end of the series either. Otherwise I really dug it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 I finally had time to begin this and I'm...happy with it? If things get better as they go along, cool. I can see why so many critics that were huge fans of the anime would be unhappy with this. So far, it's not better than the anime, but it didn't really have to be. It can be its own thing, and if I judge it that way, it's a pretty good so far. We'll see as I get further along how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The way I see it, if you're comparing it to the anime... Cowboy Bebop is perhaps the best anime of all time. Don't assume it's going to be just as good. It is different. I really, REALLY enjoyed the show. In my mind, it's one of the best shows Netflix has ever done. It's right up there with season 1 of Altered Carbon or Daredevil. That makes me wonder how they're going to fuck up season 2, but we can think about that later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I also finally got around to watching episode 1 tonight, and yeah, I don't think it's the trainwreck a lot of professional reviews made it out to be. It ain't perfect, and in particular I think a few of the jokes they throw in really don't land at all, but overall it's pretty much a competent retelling of the first episode of the anime, with Faye written into the story earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Ricofoley said: I also finally got around to watching episode 1 tonight, and yeah, I don't think it's the trainwreck a lot of professional reviews made it out to be. It ain't perfect, and in particular I think a few of the jokes they throw in really don't land at all, but overall it's pretty much a competent retelling of the first episode of the anime, with Faye written into the story earlier. I can't remember what I thought after the first episode or 2, but it ended up being perhaps my favorite show that Netflix has ever done, perhaps behind S1 of Altered Carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 12:53 AM, Keyser_Soze said: And thus shot of vicious is HORRIBLY out of context Spoiler It's not him... it'd a vr representation of him as Spike imagines him and is deliberately over the top. Damn Twitter sucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The final episode does have some scenes that are shot for shot and line for line from the anime, and rightfully so, some of the shots are absolutely iconic. One I wished they changed though was the exchange between Vicious and Spike about having the blood of a killer and having bleed all that blood away, it is such a clunky line. It has bothered me since I watched the anime 20 years ago, I always wondered if it was one of those things that just doesn't translate well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just watched my Shower, Bath, Shower one and again I’m liking what I’m watching. Nothing can really top the original/your personal expectations. Still I’m enjoying the banter and look of the show. Again watched the first in HD and was amazed at how much the 4K/Dolby Vision colours add to the atmosphere of the show. Will try to finish it this week and just an episode each night this week before bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: And thus shot of vicious is HORRIBLY out of context Hide contents It's not him... it'd a vr representation of him as Spike imagines him and is deliberately over the top. Damn Twitter sucks... He still looks like Geralt Malfoy doe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jason said: He still looks like Geralt Malfoy doe. actor straight up has a weird face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, elbobo said: actor straight up has a weird face The picture looks like he ripped a good one and is hoping no one noticed the sound/smell in the crowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, elbobo said: actor straight up has a weird face This made me curious what else he's been in and apparently he was Translucent in The Boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 whelp lol ‘Cowboy Bebop’ Canceled By Netflix After One Season WWW.HOLLYWOODREPORTER.COM Exclusive: The streamer has canceled the anime adaptation of the space Western after its premiere less than a month ago. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Boo, I would have watched a second season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 This honestly feels less like how people felt about this live action reboot and more about Netflix just perpetuating the cycle of people being hesitant to get invested in a new Netflix show until they find out whether Netflix prematurely cancels it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jason said: This honestly feels less like how people felt about this live action reboot and more about Netflix just perpetuating the cycle of people being hesitant to get invested in a new Netflix show until they find out whether Netflix prematurely cancels it. My desire to get invested in any Netflix series is practically zero at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost_MH Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Jason said: Boo, I would have watched a second season. As would I have. 3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: My desire to get invested in any Netflix series is practically zero at this point. I'm pretty much to the point where I'm likely to avoid most of they're series unless their a single season one off or they already have a few seasons under their belt. Even then, their propensity to just be fine with leaving a multi-season series on an open end doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 That's a bummer. I really liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Well "fans" got what they wanted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Hmmm... okay. I've only watched like 4 episodes... and I too expected to HATE this... I almost wanted to HATE this... but shockingly, I didn't hate it. It wasn't blowing me away or anything... and if I had never seen the original I think I may have hated it... but it was pretty interesting how well they actually replicated the bizarre tone of the original. It was way better than it had any right to be. I don't know if I'll finish the season, but I probably will. Oh well, whatever. This was a bad idea to begin with... just make some cool new shit. Enough with the remakes and adaptations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I don’t understand the benefit of publicly canceling something less than a month later but what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Komusha said: I don’t understand the benefit of publicly canceling something less than a month later but what do I know? Netflix is run by algorithms. There was a big drop from week one to week two combined with poor reviews along with the high budget, so ROI for them was awful. Internal metrics will say that this was the right call since viewership will continue to tank. Does it matter that it'll tank even more due to this public announcement? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Netflix is run by algorithms. There was a big drop from week one to week two combined with poor reviews along with the high budget, so ROI for them was awful. Internal metrics will say that this was the right call since viewership will continue to tank. Does it matter that it'll tank even more due to this public announcement? Nope. This was something that was being SO hyped by their marketing. It seems like admitting it was a failure so early on is a bad PR for them. I dunno, I don't understand why they just don't wait half a year and quietly kill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 This sucks as I really enjoyed the season. Come on campaign to get them a 2nd season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Netflix is full of "one and done" shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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