Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Six people killed in unprecedented Hawaii wildfires fanned by hurricane winds | Hawaii | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Officials said at least two dozen had been injured as the fire destroyed businesses in the historic town of Lahaina Quote Six people were killed in the unprecedented wildfires that tore through the Hawaiian island of Maui overnight, authorities said. The fires, fanned by strong winds from Hurricane Dora, destroyed businesses in the historic town of Lahaina, and left at least two dozen people injured, officials said at a press conference Wednesday. There have been 13 evacuations for three fires. Rescuers with the US Coast Guard pulled a dozen people from the ocean water off Lahaina after they had dived in to escape smoke and flames. Burn patients have been flown to the island of Oahu, according to a Honolulu emergency services department spokesperson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 My boss went there on vacation for 2 weeks. Hope she is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 It’s ok, it gets hot in summer guys totally normal right chuds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 Confirmed fatalities now stand at 36. Hawaii wildfires burn through a historic town on Maui and kill at least 36 people APNEWS.COM Wildfires, whipped by strong winds from Hurricane Dora passing far to the south, took the island of Maui by surprise, leaving behind burned-out cars on once busy streets and... Quote Thousands of Hawaii residents raced to escape homes on Maui as blazes swept across the island, destroying parts of a centuries-old town and killing at least 36 people in one of the deadliest U.S. wildfires in recent years. The fire took the island by surprise, leaving behind burned-out cars on once busy streets and smoking piles of rubble where historic buildings had stood in Lahaina Town, which dates to the 1700s and has long been a favorite destination of tourists. Crews battled blazes in several places on the island Wednesday, and the flames forced some adults and children to flee into the ocean. At least 36 people have died, according to a statement from Maui County late Wednesday that said no other details were available. Officials said earlier that 271 structures were damaged or destroyed and dozens of people injured. The 2018 Camp Fire in California killed at least 85 people and virtually razed the town of Paradise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 @SaysWho? Bait our resident incel please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 The videos of people trying to escape the fires are always shocking to me. Scary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Service announcement btw some of you know I used to be a firefighter in so cal, if you’re in a position of dealing with a rapid spreading wildfire, shelter in a structure, you are not out running wildfires like this. We were trained in my dept, cal fire, that stay in the structure until it becomes physically impossible then go outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, TUFKAK said: Service announcement btw some of you know I used to be a firefighter in so cal, if you’re in a position of dealing with a rapid spreading wildfire, shelter in a structure, you are not out running wildfires like this. We were trained in my dept, cal fire, that stay in the structure until it becomes physically impossible then go outside. From the aerial shots I've seen of the damage, it looks like the houses and other building were all quite close to one another, with a lot of trees and other plants between. If there was a wide enough road or other clearing, wouldn't it make sense to go there if you have the ability to do so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, TUFKAK said: Bait our resident incel please. He can't post here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: From the aerial shots I've seen of the damage, it looks like the houses and other building were all quite close to one another, with a lot of trees and other plants between. If there was a wide enough road or other clearing, wouldn't it make sense to go there if you have the ability to do so? If you can get to a wide enough area absolutely, but also remember the radiant heat from these fires are something that can be unbearable and requires a lot of space to dissipate. The structures can absorb some of the heat as well. roads are probably not enough space if the fuel load is high enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 What a tragedy and terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Up to 53 now August 10 Maui wildfire news WWW.CNN.COM The death toll has risen to 55 people in the catastrophic wildfires scorching Maui, officials said Thursday. Follow here for live updates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 Confirmed fatalities have risen to 80 Number of Maui wildfire deaths rises to 80: Live updates WWW.USATODAY.COM Authorities say the death toll from the fires on Maui has risen to 80. The number of confirmed fatalities increased from the previous figure of 67. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 Fatalities have risen to 93 and the governor has warned that the death toll could rise "significantly". BBC News - Maui fire: 93 killed as governor warns of 'significant' death toll rise Maui fire: 93 killed as governor warns of 'significant' death toll rise WWW.BBC.CO.UK Ninety-three people have been killed and hundreds are unaccounted for days after fires broke out in Hawaii. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 When a 'fire hurricane' hit, Maui's warning sirens never sounded WWW.BBC.COM Lahaina residents tell the BBC they had no official warning before "fire hurricane" engulfed their town. Quote Lahaina, once Hawaii's royal capital, is now a crematorium. "We pick up remains and they fall apart," said Maui County police chief John Pelletier on Saturday, four days after a massive wildfire tore downhill through dry brush and grass and engulfed the island's western edge. Close to 100 deaths have been confirmed, making the Lahaina wildfires the deadliest in the US in more than a century. But just 3% of Lahaina's charred ruins have been searched so far, stoking fears that the death toll will continue its sharp climb. "None of us really know the size of it yet," chief Pelletier warned, growing visibly emotional. Dozens of survivors shared their stories of escape and loss with the BBC, helping to piece together a more complete picture of the tragedy that unfolded on Tuesday, when fires moving at a mile per minute consumed the town. One thing seemed to unite their accounts: residents say they had no official warning before they fled for their lives, raising painful questions about the effectiveness of the emergency response and whether more people could have been saved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 Hawaii fires: a visual guide to the explosive blaze that razed Lahaina | Hawaii fires | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM ‘Catastrophic’ wildfires in Maui killed dozens of people, burned buildings and decimated a town – here’s what we know so far Quote Explosive wildfires on the Hawaiian island of Maui have killed dozens of people, displaced thousands and reduced much of the vibrant, centuries-old town of Lahaina to ash. As residents are beginning to return to the historic town, Hawaii is starting to reckon with the unfathomable loss left by the deadliest blaze in the US in a century. “What we’ve seen has been catastrophic,” said Josh Green, the governor. Meanwhile, many remain missing and people are continuing to frantically search for those they haven’t heard from yet. Large swaths of the island remain without cellphone service or electricity. Recovery from the fires, which were fueled by drought-desiccated landscapes and fanned by hurricane winds, will be long, officials warned. Here is how the devastation unfolded, and what we know so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 One mile per minute... Holy shit. Nobody alive could have outrun that. Just absolutely hearbreaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 That rate of spread is absolutely bonkers, I’m honestly shocked no firefighters died on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 I think the report that is assembled after this fire is going to be pretty eye opening. From what I've read, the west side of Maui used to grow a lot of sugar cane, but it was done with irrigation water. For whatever reason, that practice was stopped a while back so the fields where the cane was grown has transitioned into dry grasslands, which would be "normal" for the leeward side of the island. The dry grass combined with dense housing and a general lack of preparedness for wildfires really compounded this tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 What the fuck! One mile per minute is staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 A terrible loss of life and a cultural loss as well. Lahaina was such a beautiful place that had managed to maintain so much local character and history that was so unlike the mega resort areas that have consumed so much of Hawaii. It's really hard to imagine it being at all similar in the aftermath. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, TwinIon said: A terrible loss of life and a cultural loss as well. Lahaina was such a beautiful place that had managed to maintain so much local character and history that was so unlike the mega resort areas that have consumed so much of Hawaii. It's really hard to imagine it being at all similar in the aftermath. I have many memories of Lahaina from when I was a kid. It's heartbreaking to think that it's just... gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 Current officially confirmed fatalities stand at 114, but nearly 850 people are unaccounted for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Omg. 850 unaccounted for is absolutely devastating. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Wow. What the fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Current officially confirmed fatalities stand at 114, but nearly 850 people are unaccounted for. A lot of them are kids who were home from school while their parents were at work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 "Unaccounted For"... yikes... that's not good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 This has to be the deadliest fire in US history, if close to 1,000 people are likely dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 sigh, my Dad is in on the space laser theory 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, stepee said: sigh, my Dad is in on the space laser theory What? I must have missed this. The most recent crazy I saw going around online was the MH370 airplane being teleported out of the air by 3 flying orbs… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 @Brian have you heard from your boss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, Chris- said: @Brian have you heard from your boss? She is fine as well as her family. Unfortunately they were on Maui and near the fire. They had to be evacuated from the hotel to a gymnasium. They spent two days there with very little food, water, and sleep. They then got bused to the airport where they spent another day before being flown out. During the duration, they had no cell service so I couldn’t get in touch with her. Glad they got home safely. She said her lasting memory will be the intense heat from the fire when they were evacuated. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, DarkStar189 said: What? I must have missed this. The most recent crazy I saw going around online was the MH370 airplane being teleported out of the air by 3 flying orbs… Fact check: Maui fires caused by directed energy weapons? AMP.DW.COM As dramatic images of the aftermath of the Maui wildfires spread on social media, so are conspiracy theories about what caused it. Official sources blame extreme weather conditions, but others suggest... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Everyone from the state and local governments, the water and electrical utility providers, to the insurance companies really, really messed up here. The survivors will (and should) absolutely hold all of these entities accountable for this tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, stepee said: Fact check: Maui fires caused by directed energy weapons? AMP.DW.COM As dramatic images of the aftermath of the Maui wildfires spread on social media, so are conspiracy theories about what caused it. Official sources... I also pointed out that the photos were from another place 5 years ago and he actually KNEW that, but says it’s still what happened because it’s the only explanation because it’s impossible for fire to be that hot in nature and that those pictures were just from someone else trolling and not related to the evidence. Edit: This one is really gross to me so I couldn’t let it go and started texting him more info. First, and I foolishly thought this would be enough, I found an article from the damn New York Post debunking his stupid “trees are still standing” proof of lasers (https://nypost.com/2023/08/15/maui-wildfires-spark-conspiracy-theories-about-space-lasers-oprah-land-grabs-and-suspicious-trees/) He just did a winky face and is like “interesting they don’t mention the metal and glass” which is based on a theory he says that the fire wa melting cars which is impossible because fire doesn’t get hot enough to melt the aluminum and windows on them. I couldn’t find it at first but some quick googling shows me that one is so obscure because it’s just simply scientifically incorrect. Eventually though I did find a specific article debunking that aspect (https://fullfact.org/online/maui-fire-melting-point-metal/) He just responded to that with a Black thumbs up which means he acknowledged it but doesn’t care and will still continue to believe this theory simply by choosing to just believe in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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