Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Read up on the alt ending and some Thanos and Starfox stuff…. Soooooo… Spoiler Thanos is an Eternal? And he rebelled against the celestials, but part of his plan to “hinder” them was the snap…? Apparently in flashbacks that they decided not to use and/or film, he and Starfox were part of a group of Eternals that were on Titan and Thanos was a “prime eternal” like Ajax… wut? I’m not even close to up to speed with comics, but this sounds like an insane retcon. I know he’s an Eternal in the comics, but I think Eternals are a bit different in the comics too, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Read up on the alt ending and some Thanos and Starfox stuff…. Soooooo… Reveal hidden contents Thanos is an Eternal? And he rebelled against the celestials, but part of his plan to “hinder” them was the snap…? Apparently in flashbacks that they decided not to use and/or film, he and Starfox were part of a group of Eternals that were on Titan and Thanos was a “prime eternal” like Ajax… wut? I’m not even close to up to speed with comics, but this sounds like an insane retcon. I know he’s an Eternal in the comics, but I think Eternals are a bit different in the comics too, right? Spoiler Thanos and Starfox were Eternals in the comics too... Eternals from Titan. In fact in the current Eternals comic, Thanos just took over the earth Eternals. Thanos' and Starfox' Father Mentor was an Earth Eternal who left and went to Titan and founded a whole new colony of Eternals. I don't know what the alt ending to the movie was, but him being an Eternal isn't a retcon. In fact in the comics it was rumored that he was a eternal with the Deviant gene... which is why he looked so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Hide contents Thanos and Starfox were Eternals in the comics too... Eternals from Titan. In fact in the current Eternals comic, Thanos just took over the earth Eternals. Thanos' and Starfox' Father Mentor was an Earth Eternal who left and went to Titan and founded a whole new colony of Eternals. I don't know what the alt ending to the movie was, but him being an Eternal isn't a retcon. In fact in the comics it was rumored that he was a eternal with the Deviant gene... which is why he looked so different. Spoiler The retcon being his reason for the snap/killing half of populations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Alt (apparently original ending that Marvel/Dis wouldn’t sign off on) @skillzdadirecta + deleted/unfilmed scenes: Spoiler Alt ending: Tiamut is born, everyone on Earth dies, all the Earth-Eternals are pulled back and it ends with their memories being wiped, Ajax is being rebuilt. Marvel/Dis put the nix on this as they didn’t want this to be a multiverse heavy movie on top of all the new lore they dropped with Eternals and Celestials. Deleted and unfilmed/unfinished scenes: shows Thanos with Starfox on Titan finding out “the truth” and thus coming up with the plan of “saving” planets from the Celestials via killing half the populations to prevent/slow-down new Celestials being born. Thanos rejects his Eternal-Prime status to cut himself off from Arisham and removes that yellow-stone-thing and gives it to Starfox. Thanos was unsuccessful in stopping Titan’s Celestial being born, and that’s how/why it was destroyed (retconning what was told/shown previously in regards to the destruction of Titan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Alt (apparently original ending that Marvel/Dis wouldn’t sign off on) @skillzdadirecta + deleted/unfilmed scenes: Hide contents Alt ending: Tiamut is born, everyone on Earth dies, all the Earth-Eternals are pulled back and it ends with their memories being wiped, Ajax is being rebuilt. Marvel/Dis put the nix on this as they didn’t want this to be a multiverse heavy movie on top of all the new lore they dropped with Eternals and Celestials. Deleted and unfilmed/unfinished scenes: shows Thanos with Starfox on Titan finding out “the truth” and thus coming up with the plan of “saving” planets from the Celestials via killing half the populations to prevent/slow-down new Celestials being born. Thanos rejects his Eternal-Prime status to cut himself off from Arisham and removes that yellow-stone-thing and gives it to Starfox. Thanos was unsuccessful in stopping Titan’s Celestial being born, and that’s how/why it was destroyed (retconning what was told/shown previously in regards to the destruction of Titan) Where did you hear this? Is it on the Bluray or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Where did you hear this? Is it on the Bluray or something? Chloé Zhao: ‘Really Bleak’ Original ‘Eternals’ Ending Didn’t ‘Go Down Well with Audiences’ WWW.INDIEWIRE.COM Zhao says the original ending for her MCU debut had "Twilight Zone" vibes that didn't test well with early viewers. Emergency Awesome expands upon this as well as the deleted + unfilmed scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 i agree with disney about the alt ending, that's a bit much since this is a film universe. i wish some of that thanos stuff was in the movie though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Anything that even sorta implies that Thanos might have had a good point is probably not a direction the MCU wants to head down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Anything that even sorta implies that Thanos might have had a good point is probably not a direction the MCU wants to head down. only zack snyder is capable of that kind of nuance! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: Anything that even sorta implies that Thanos might have had a good point is probably not a direction the MCU wants to head down. Supposedly it may be delved into in Eternal's 2 when they go into Starfox's backstory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: Anything that even sorta implies that Thanos might have had a good point is probably not a direction the MCU wants to head down. Ummm Where to Buy Clint Barton’s ‘Thanos Was Right’ Mug SCREENRANT.COM Retailers have recreated Hawkeye’s iconic mug. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Well, if anyone wanted some Eternals prequel stuff, Marvel has a seven chapter comic series up on Webtoon. Eternals: The 500 Year War | WEBTOON WWW.WEBTOONS.COM An international, all-star creative team of writers and artists presents ETERNALS: THE 500 YEAR WAR! Follow the Eternals in their past encounters against the Deviants in this original 7 episode series! Learn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 5:22 AM, Spork3245 said: Alt (apparently original ending that Marvel/Dis wouldn’t sign off on) @skillzdadirecta + deleted/unfilmed scenes: Hide contents Alt ending: Tiamut is born, everyone on Earth dies, all the Earth-Eternals are pulled back and it ends with their memories being wiped, Ajax is being rebuilt. Marvel/Dis put the nix on this as they didn’t want this to be a multiverse heavy movie on top of all the new lore they dropped with Eternals and Celestials. Deleted and unfilmed/unfinished scenes: shows Thanos with Starfox on Titan finding out “the truth” and thus coming up with the plan of “saving” planets from the Celestials via killing half the populations to prevent/slow-down new Celestials being born. Thanos rejects his Eternal-Prime status to cut himself off from Arisham and removes that yellow-stone-thing and gives it to Starfox. Thanos was unsuccessful in stopping Titan’s Celestial being born, and that’s how/why it was destroyed (retconning what was told/shown previously in regards to the destruction of Titan) That would be a straight up retcon, or maybe more fitting for an alternate universe Thanos, because in the MCU Thanos snapped away half of all life, including animals, while a Celestial's birth requires only sentient life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 The more I think on this movie the more I like it. The conversations between the Eternals, the different ideologies represented, the way it's shot (on location!), etc. This is one I really enjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 53 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: The more I think on this movie the more I like it. The conversations between the Eternals, the different ideologies represented, the way it's shot (on location!), etc. This is one I really enjoyed. The more I think about it, the more I enjoy how it's just... Different from most MCU flicks. Did I think it was necessarily "better" than Shang-Chi or Black Widow in a vacuum? Maybe not, but both of those movies were like "I've seen this at least 10 times before in the MCU alone" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 2:02 AM, Fizzzzle said: The more I think about it, the more I enjoy how it's just... Different from most MCU flicks. Did I think it was necessarily "better" than Shang-Chi or Black Widow in a vacuum? Maybe not, but both of those movies were like "I've seen this at least 10 times before in the MCU alone" Yeah, exactly. It felt very different, and more tangible in how it was shot. And it had more on its mind as well. It's just this kind of weird, esoteric, beautiful film when Marvel movies aren't usually that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 12:20 AM, Ghost_MH said: help me out here. I can't think of any real connection between these two. It's wildly random. I stayed away from spoilers, but my wife has a wildly good ear for voices and knew who it was. That's the only reason I even looked it up. Ummmm it's The Ebony Blade and the ebony, Blade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 8:03 AM, BloodyHell said: But they weren't wrong. It was definitely one of the worst marvel films. Its not a bad movie by any means, but not great either. I'd be more interested in the prequel talked about above than part 2 of this (though ill watch that too). I actually watched it again and was less impressed the second time. I mean a majority of critics on Rotten Tomatoes said it was bad and some were even saying that it’s the worst Marvel movie, which is just ridiculous to me. So yes, they are wrong. It’s not a bad movie, and by no means the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, Komusha said: I mean a majority of critics on Rotten Tomatoes said it was bad and some were even saying that it’s the worst Marvel movie, which is just ridiculous to me. So yes, they are wrong. It’s not a bad movie, and by no means the worst. Oh, I definitely think it was one of the worst Marvel Movies. It's a toss up with Thor 2 and IM3. But it isn't unwatchable, its just not a good movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Oh, I definitely think it was one of the worst Marvel Movies. It's a toss up with Thor 2 and IM3. But it isn't unwatchable, its just not a good movie. If you think Iron Man 3 is bad then we may just have to agree to disagree when it comes to movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Komusha said: If you think Iron Man 3 is bad then we may just have to agree to disagree when it comes to movies. I mean, yeah. It was bad. 1&2 were fantastic. 3 is at near the bottom of the Marvel movie list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Iron Man 3 is the best of that trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 hours ago, BloodyHell said: I mean, yeah. It was bad. 1&2 were fantastic. 3 is at near the bottom of the Marvel movie list. You thought Iron Man 2 was fantastic? I don't love Iron Man 3 nearly as much as folks here do, but 2 was always regarded as the weakest movie in that trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I liked iron Man 3 a lot, but I'm one of the few that loved the Trevor Slattery twist and I generally love Shane Black's sense of humor. Killian was a shit villain, but that's par for the course in the MCU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: I liked iron Man 3 a lot, but I'm one of the few that loved the Trevor Slattery twist and I generally love Shane Black's sense of humor. Killian was a shit villain, but that's par for the course in the MCU. Yup. As much as I would have loved to see The Mandarin with his ten magic rings each with distinct powers (and still a little disappointed we still didn't get that with him in Shang-Chi), that twist was brilliant and hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I'm a big Shane Black fan so Iron Man 3 was really good to me. It's not without its flaws, but like Eternals, its different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: You thought Iron Man 2 was fantastic? I don't love Iron Man 3 nearly as much as folks here do, but 2 was always regarded as the weakest movie in that trilogy. To be fair, im not as big on marvel movies as most. I think most are mediocre fun popcorn movies with a few standouts. I loved the Captain America trilogy, I enjoyed Guardians, and the last Thor movie. I love the new Spider-Man movies. I liked the Avengers series, but I thought Endgame was weak beyond the action and fan service. I still think the original Iron Man is very fun. Good popcorn flicks is really all I expect of them though, so thats fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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