AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Dozens of ‘New York Times’ Journalists Hit Staff Union for Its Defense of Trans Coverage Criticism | Vanity Fair WWW.VANITYFAIR.COM Some of the paper’s top reporters signed a letter objecting to the Guild’s response to newsroom leaders. “We ask that our union work to advance, not erode, our journalistic independence,” they wrote. Opinion | The Mask Mandates Did Nothing. Will Any Lessons Be Learned? - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM “Do something” is not science, and it shouldn’t have been public policy. Has this bastion of left-of-centre journalism been corrupted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 It’s only center left if you lack basic analytical skills. It’s pretty solidly right center to right. Think never trump vein of conservative, not full dumbass right because they can follow and create an argument, antithesis of the trump far right. it’s been this way for a long while. An institution for the status quo. Try to keep up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Everything not full-left is right-of-centre. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Even if you consider the NYT centrist, then that still makes it almost far-right by any other western nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 The New York Times doubles down on its dangerous obsession with trans people WWW.SFCHRONICLE.COM An open letter to the Times rightly calls out the paper for its biased coverage of trans... THE WORST THING WE READ THIS WEEK: Why Is the New York Times So Obsessed With Trans Kids? – Popula POPULA.COM A question to ask. At length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I'm truly shocked that a newspaper that gave a full-throated endorsement of the invasion of Iraq would engage in such behavior. Truly. Shocked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I'm truly shocked that a newspaper that gave a full-throated endorsement of the invasion of Iraq would engage in such behavior. Truly. Shocked. And don’t forget the uncritically published oped of a senator calling for the American military to quell the 2020 protests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 And this bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Its always amusing to me when conservatives label something as being liberal and then attack it for not being liberal. It reminds me of my conservative family on FB yelling at me "SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT". Like when did I ever say I'm tolerant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 And everything in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Like we haven’t been critical of times reporting for ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said: Its always amusing to me when conservatives label something as being liberal and then attack it for not being liberal. It reminds me of my conservative family on FB yelling at me "SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT". Like when did I ever say I'm tolerant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Even if you consider the NYT centrist, then that still makes it almost far-right by any other western nation. I recall you felt the Toronto Star was a bastion of right-wing support in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 NYT Pitchbot is a thing for a reason. The paper has sucked for a really long time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: NYT Pitchbot is a thing for a reason. The paper has sucked for a really long time. Which new sources don't suck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Has this bastion of left-of-centre journalism been corrupted? OLO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, Kal-El814 said: OLO What does OLO mean? I even googled it, and learned it was an online ordering system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Which new sources don't suck? Once a news organization actually pays "opinion writers", it automatically sucks by default. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, AbsolutSurgen said: What does OLO mean? I even googled it, and learned it was an online ordering system. It's like lol but not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Once a news organization actually pays "opinion writers", it automatically sucks by default. They all suck then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Jamelle Bouie is the only Times writer worth a damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 out loud orgasm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Jason said: out loud orgasm Makes more sense than on-line ordering system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia(a week before 2016 election) G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 NYT like most news is meant to generate revenue. It just so happens that shitty click bait takes happen to be conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Which new sources don't suck? The ones that don’t platform fascists or try to make neo nazis sympathetic characters for starters. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: The ones that don’t platform fascists or try to make neo nazis sympathetic characters for starters. Which ones are they? 2 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: NYT like most news is meant to generate revenue. It just so happens that shitty click bait takes happen to be conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Talking Points Memo has always been pretty solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Nothing brings the CEB together like a good old pile-on towards the NYT. Ya love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: They all suck then? You got it - it's really just a matter of degree. Now this is a legitimately good news organization: Investigative Journalism and News in the Public Interest WWW.PROPUBLICA.ORG ProPublica is an independent, non-profit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Once a news organization actually pays "opinion writers", it automatically sucks by default. Especially when one of them is Bret fucking stephens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: You got it - it's really just a matter of degree. Now this is a legitimately good news organization: Investigative Journalism and News in the Public Interest WWW.PROPUBLICA.ORG ProPublica is an independent, non-profit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. I'll stop trolling for a second... I really do think opinion and news need to be separated. Too many "news" sources are unable to stay objective, and mistake journalistic integrity with expressing their opinions on tpoics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 PBS NewsHour is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Injecting opinions would be fine if they'd be upfront about what their opinions are instead of insisting on pretending like they have no opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Even if you consider the NYT centrist, then that still makes it almost far-right by any other western nation. I used to think like this, but honestly a lot of Europe is to the left of the US on fiscal issues but not really social issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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