BloodyHell Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Im definitely in. I don't expect anything wonderful, I expect Kevin Smith, but Kevin Smith is pretty nostalgic for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I was a big Kevin Smith fan, and I am a big View Askewneverse fan, but Smith simply hasn't made anything good since Red State and Tusk (for me). Once Johnny Depp's character shows up in Tusk, Smith's entire talent seems to have left him (Tusk, I would argue, was quite good up to that point). Like am I getting good Kevin Smith or am I getting Jersey Girl, Cop Out, Yoga Hosers, Jay and Silent Bob Reboot Kevin Smith? And I know most didn't like Red State or Tusk either. I will say Clerks II was pretty good (not as good as Clerks but I didn't expect it to be) so hopefully Clerks III maintains the quality. I really enjoyed Zack and Miri Make A Porno as well, shit was super funny to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I think Red State is the last Smith flick I’ve seen. None of the trailers for any of his subsequent movies made me think it is worth watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I like Clerks and Clerks 2. I like Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back. But I didn't seen the new Jay and Silent Bob cuz it seemed kinda cringe. This seems far less cringe and more like Clerks 2, but I'm also tired of nostalgia bait that offers nothing but nostalgia and that could be Clerks 3. The trailer certainly pushes that which is not a good thing. And I loved clerks 2. Like, I know it wasn't for everyone, but because of my Dad, I saw it in theaters 3 times and many more times on DvD. Haven't seen it in fucking years tho. Like 10+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 This might be a hot take but I actually think the second was better than the first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, Chris- said: This might be a hot take but I actually think the second was better than the first. I...kind of agree? I love Clerks but somehow Clerks II nailed some sort of sweet spot for me. I really like that movie and that scene where they go to the go kart track hits me every time. It's very sweet in a not corny way and that's hard to do. I also think Rosario Dawson is great in it. One of those movies that blew my mind with how much better it was than it seemed to have any right to be. Just for that reason, I'll give III a chance despite not getting much from the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Looks like one giant 'member berry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, legend said: Looks like one giant 'member berry. Which is exactly what I want from Clerks. Like I said, im not looking to smith to be profound, just nostalgic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Which is exactly what I want from Clerks. Like I said, im not looking to smith to be profound, just nostalgic. I'm not sure anyone expects a Clerks movie to be profound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, legend said: I'm not sure anyone expects a Clerks movie to be profound! Would you like some making fuck? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I liked what I saw, and already looks more cohesive compare to the Jay and Silent Bob Reboot movie. It had moments but wasn’t nearly the sharp satirical whit I wanted. I will happily see this though, but maybe not in theatre but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaseknox Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Clerks and Clerks II are a couple of my favorite comedies, but the trailer for Clerks III isn’t really doing it for me for some reason. It all looks a bit forced. Outside of the first two Clerks movies, the other Kevin Smith movies that I’ve seen (Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, Jersey Girl, Zack and Miri Make a Porno) are kind of mixed bags IMO. I think that I like Zack and Miri Make a Porno the most out of them. I haven’t seen Cop Out, Red State, Tusk, Yoga Hosers, or Jay and Silent Bob Reboot. Are any of those worth a watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bacon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Phaseknox said: Clerks and Clerks II are a couple of my favorite comedies, but the trailer for Clerks III isn’t really doing it for me for some reason. It all looks a bit forced. Outside of the first two Clerks movies, the other Kevin Smith movies that I’ve seen (Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, Jersey Girl, Zack and Miri Make a Porno) are kind of mixed bags IMO. I think that I like Zack and Miri Make a Porno the most out of them. I haven’t seen Cop Out, Red State, Tusk, Yoga Hosers, or Jay and Silent Bob Reboot. Are any of those worth a watch? I think Red State and Tusk are worth watching for a very different Smith who is really trying to evolve his storytelling and directorial abilities, and largely succeeds. Red State is some dark, damning stuff at times with an excellent final punchline to end the movie, and Tusk is some weird body horror shit for half it's runtime with wonderful one takes of emotional moments in both movies. General audiences and critics didn't like either movie, but I was impressed by Smith's skill and growth. I wouldn't bother with Yoga Hosers or Reboot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I hate to say it because I love the guy and he's a fellow Jerseyan but Kevin Smith is no auteur. I does FAR better directing TV than films. Zack and Miri was ok but that was mostly due to the cast. He's a great host and every fanboy's dream, but yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I hate to say it because I love the guy and he's a fellow Jerseyan but Kevin Smith is no auteur. I does FAR better directing TV than films. Zack and Miri was ok but that was mostly due to the cast. He's a great host and every fanboy's dream, but yeah... Nobody ever claimed he was though. But sometimes, movies are just fun and nostalgic, and thats ok. Kevin Smith makes Kevin Smith movies. Most of us who are fans grew up with smith, and enjoy revisiting these characters. Im not sure the "Smith isn't a great director" takes matter, because I don't think anyone ever believed otherwise, Kevin included. But every time theres a Smith movie, theres a bunch of people reminding fans that his movies are bad and we shouldn't like them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Phaseknox said: Clerks and Clerks II are a couple of my favorite comedies, but the trailer for Clerks III isn’t really doing it for me for some reason. It all looks a bit forced. Outside of the first two Clerks movies, the other Kevin Smith movies that I’ve seen (Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, Jersey Girl, Zack and Miri Make a Porno) are kind of mixed bags IMO. I think that I like Zack and Miri Make a Porno the most out of them. I haven’t seen Cop Out, Red State, Tusk, Yoga Hosers, or Jay and Silent Bob Reboot. Are any of those worth a watch? Red State is a good movie, I really enjoy it, and Reboot is fun if you're interested in the Viewaskewaverse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I seriously have no better answer than nostalgia and weirdly enough I can't think of any other film series where I'm cool with that. Usually I'd rip the shit out of something like this lol I kind of just want to hear Randal and Dante talk shit to each other, have a bro love moment and I'm good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Bloodporne said: I seriously have no better answer than nostalgia and weirdly enough I can't think of any other film series where I'm cool with that. Usually I'd rip the shit out of something like this lol I kind of just want to hear Randal and Dante talk shit to each other, have a bro love moment and I'm good. I find the idea that every piece of art requires a reason to be a bit odd. Kevin had a heart attack, and realized that he had something he wanted to say about it inside of this ridiculous world he created, with these crazy characters many of us love from our formative years. Why does it need to be more than that? He's not preventing anyone else from creating their art. He isn't forcing anyone to watch. He likes to make weird movies and has earned a lot of love and goodwill with a small, dedicated fanbase which has been able to support it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 11 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I hate to say it because I love the guy and he's a fellow Jerseyan but Kevin Smith is no auteur. I does FAR better directing TV than films. Zack and Miri was ok but that was mostly due to the cast. He's a great host and every fanboy's dream, but yeah... I don't know if you've seen Red State and Tusk, but Smith's direction is leagues better than a lot of other directors in those (until Johnny Depp shows up in Tusk). He has these beautiful one takes in both movies, some extremely unsettling scenes and beautifully directed monologues. There's one pull out shot of Haley Joel Osment's friend crying from a mirror that pulls out from her face as she talks and cries and reveals herself until the camera moves into the next room backwards to reveal who is listening to her. Red State's act structure is bold and exciting, reminding me of a Coen Brothers movie where new main characters took over and you had sudden deaths of other main characters. There's another scene in Tusk that is just a held two shot of Justin Long's and Michael Park's characters as Long interviews him and it's incredibly tense and unsettling. It shocks me over and over how these two movies didn't elevate Smith's directorial talents. He even uses darker color pallets, not his typical overly brightly lit and shot comedies. Both movies are worth a reassessment I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 This is me just completely making shit up, but I had the sense that he really put a lot of effort into those movies (Red State and Tusk), really challenged himself to do something different. But then when they weren’t critically or commercially successful, he decided that level of effort just wasn’t worth it when he can just have fun with his friends making something dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, TheLeon said: This is me just completely making shit up, but I had the sense that he really put a lot of effort into those movies (Red State and Tusk), really challenged himself to do something different. But then when they weren’t critically or commercially successful, he decided that level of effort just wasn’t worth it when he can just have fun with his friends making something dumb. Lol, tusk came out of a twitter poll based on a joke from one of his podcasts. Red State was definitely him doing something different. I think he did a good job with it, and got shit on because of his antics at that time (auctioning to himself, bitching at press). Pot pretty much changed him I think, mellowed him out a ton and made him just want to be kevin smith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, TheLeon said: This is me just completely making shit up, but I had the sense that he really put a lot of effort into those movies (Red State and Tusk), really challenged himself to do something different. But then when they weren’t critically or commercially successful, he decided that level of effort just wasn’t worth it when he can just have fun with his friends making something dumb. I absolutely agree with this. The dip from those two movies in terms of effort to Yoga Hosers and Reboot was very surprising to me. I think you're right as to why. 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: Lol, tusk came out of a twitter poll based on a joke from one of his podcasts. Red State was definitely him doing something different. I think he did a good job with it, and got shit on because of his antics at that time (auctioning to himself, bitching at press). Pot pretty much changed him I think, mellowed him out a ton and made him just want to be kevin smith. Technically, it is pretty bold to make a movie from a twitter poll based on a joke from a podcast. Either way Tusk was very different, like I said, people should give it another watch, particularly the first half and everything not including Johnny Depp's character who is irritating as fuck. It is very well directed and shot. The seal shit did have me aghast but also kind of like wtf at the same time, all in a good way. There are few movies like Tusk, for good or ill. I think if a person goes from Cop Out, then Red State, then Tusk, then Yoga Hosers, then Reboot, the contrast is so stark in improvement and then back down that it must be due to the critical and commercial reaction to those two films. Red State is more on point in real life than ever, and Tusk's weird body horror predates recent films like Possessor, Crimes of the Future, and Titane, etc. (came out ahead of what has clearly become a trend if you add in Swallow, Raw, etc. as well) and is actually a dark movie but also darkly funny as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 That reference to the original deleted clerks ending 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Kevin Smith is an odd duck. I’ve seen him in person doing his appearances and run into him randomly on Red Bank at his comic shop. There’s no real denying that the man is a natural storyteller, he can take a normal experience that someone could tell in a few minutes into an entertaining hour long yarn. That said, I don’t think he’s a very good screenwriter or director. Not horrible, but not much better than above average. I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that his best scripts focus mostly on retelling the mundane and things that he clearly experienced to some extent himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Apparently it releases tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Yep, it’s playing in any theater that does the Fathom Events thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 This releases on streaming tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Spork3245 said: This releases on streaming tomorrow! What services? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: What services? Not sub-based services, ones you can buy/rent from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I believe the physical release is in the first week of December? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 10 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Not sub-based services, ones you can buy/rent from. Im absolutely fine with paying to watch this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Spoiler I don’t know how I feel about that ending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Hide contents I don’t know how I feel about that ending Who cares! Is it good? Be seeing it myself hopefully within the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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