Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 If so, you've got a bit of a problem An Arizona priest used one wrong word in baptisms for decades. They're all invalid WWW.NPR.ORG The Catholic Diocese of Phoenix found that Rev. Andres Arango had been incorrectly saying "we baptize" instead of "I baptize." The error made thousands of baptisms and subsequent sacraments invalid. Quote A Catholic priest in Arizona has resigned after he was found to have performed baptisms incorrectly throughout his career, rendering the rite invalid for thousands of people. The Catholic Diocese of Phoenix announced on its website that it determined after careful study that the Rev. Andres Arango had used the wrong wording in baptisms performed up until June 17, 2021. He had been off by a single word. During baptisms in both English and Spanish, Arango used the phrase "we baptize you in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." He should have said "I baptize," the diocese explained. "It is not the community that baptizes a person and incorporates them into the Church of Christ; rather, it is Christ, and Christ alone, who presides at all sacraments; therefore, it is Christ who baptizes," it said. "If you were baptized using the wrong words, that means your baptism is invalid, and you are not baptized." But wait, this gets even better! Quote As far as the diocese is aware, all of the other sacraments that Arango conferred are valid. But because baptism is the "sacrament that grants access to all the others," a botched baptism could invalidate any subsequent sacraments, including confirmation, marriage and holy orders. "What this means for you is, if your baptism was invalid and you've received other sacraments, you may need to repeat some or all of those sacraments after you are validly baptized as well," the diocese said. If this means that the sacrament of last rites was also invalid, then there some people who were probably a bit surprised when they ended up in purgatory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 So how long until this guy gets banished to Craggy Island? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Christ sounds pretty selfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 God is all knowing and all loving...but if you mix up one word, then it's hell for you! And not even you mixing it up, someone else! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 I can definitely see the following sentence being used by couples going through marital strife: "Guess what? We aren't actually married in the eyes of the Church! I'm outta here!" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "Guess what? We aren't actually married in the eyes of the Church! I'm outta here!" Refunds with interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Honey, Honey, Honey. Please calm down. I wasn’t cheating. . . .technically. . . well in the eyes before God. Daddy. Why are you and mommy fighting. Shut up you little bastard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, silentbob said: Honey, Honey, Honey. Please calm down. I wasn’t cheating. . . .technically. . . well in the eyes before God. Daddy. Why are you and mommy fighting. Shut up you little bastard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Organized religion is silly. I'm sure the Church will probably backtrack and say this time because of the circumstances it's fine, I mean they eventually backtrack on everything else that's isn't all that important! "No eating meat on Fridays! Too hard? OK fine no meat on Good Friday. Still too hard? OK fine, but you should still give something up for Lent. What? Ugh fine give something up only if you want to." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Oh no, they said the magic gibberish wrong! Now, something, something, the devil? You hate to see eternal damnation because of a clerical issue, especially when it was a cleric would made the mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 He’ll he relieved to hear it was all nonsense anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 ...and another reason why organized religion is absurd! I'm just glad I didn't enter this thread to hear about a bunch of infants molested under water or something, so hey! Silver linings right!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Of all the people in history that would line up to argue that your relationship and covenant with God have nothing to do with the details and trappings of ritual, the first motherfucker in line would be Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 "Listen, decades of altar boy groping and getting fucked up on Jesus' blood? That we can excuse....but one wrong word in a baptism??? Dude." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 This is why I think Catholicism is a bit silly sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 When I first read this article in another place, I just assumed it was an Onion article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Anathema- said: Of all the people in history that would line up to argue that your relationship and covenant with God have nothing to do with the details and trappings of ritual, the first motherfucker in line would be Jesus Christ. What a superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, CayceG said: This is why I think Catholicism is a bit silly sometimes. Just this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I was baptized by my now wife so no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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