silentbob Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 27 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: We have a plan. Funny enough I was catching up on this thread and immediately thought of Space Cowboys near the end here (good movie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 Jesus. A man rescued some women who were still in Andiivka and has shared the video of them leaving the city. Russia now has the city surrounded and Ukraine is withdrawing completely (if they haven't already completed). Russia likely lost 2x as many dead as when they took Bakhmut...but they still have taken it. This is the first city to fall since Bakhmut. https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1758949767223148781?s=20 EDIT - How do you embed twitter, now? Anyway, watch if you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Absolute war zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 20 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Jesus. A man rescued some women who were still in Andiivka and has shared the video of them leaving the city. Russia now has the city surrounded and Ukraine is withdrawing completely (if they haven't already completed). Russia likely lost 2x as many dead as when they took Bakhmut...but they still have taken it. This is the first city to fall since Bakhmut. https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1758949767223148781?s=20 EDIT - How do you embed twitter, now? Anyway, watch if you can. At the end they say they delivered them to Pokrovsk. That's the next city over in Ukrainian held territory and it's where some friends of mine were from and lived up until the new invasion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Jesus. A man rescued some women who were still in Andiivka and has shared the video of them leaving the city. Russia now has the city surrounded and Ukraine is withdrawing completely (if they haven't already completed). Russia likely lost 2x as many dead as when they took Bakhmut...but they still have taken it. This is the first city to fall since Bakhmut. https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1758949767223148781?s=20 EDIT - How do you embed twitter, now? Anyway, watch if you can. The Russians claim that they're in "full control" of Avdiivka: Russia claims full control of Avdiivka after Ukrainian retreat | Ukraine | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Kremlin says pullout was rushed and chaotic as it congratulates its soldiers on biggest gain since last May Quote Russia has said it has taken full control of the eastern Ukrainian city of Avdiivka, its biggest gain since capturing Bakhmut last May, after a retreat by Ukrainian troops. Ukrainian forces had withdrawn from the city in the industrial Donbas region to avoid encirclement, the army chief, Oleksandr Syrskyi, said on Saturday, adding that he had acted to “preserve the lives and health of servicemen”, stabilise the situation and move troops to more favourable defence lines. Some Ukrainian troops were still holed up in a vast Soviet-era coke plant, one of Europe’s biggest, Russia said, describing the retreat as rushed and chaotic. Ukraine’s military said there had been casualties in the retreat but that the situation had stabilised. Also, new video from Kings & Generals: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Hesitant to post this because GunTubers take the algo to dark places, but still an interesting hour plus interview with a Brit and American Ukraine combat veterans discussing very low level infantry tactics. Everything from drones, trenches, getting hit with artillery, and different Russian units they've fought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Jesus. A man rescued some women who were still in Andiivka and has shared the video of them leaving the city. Russia now has the city surrounded and Ukraine is withdrawing completely (if they haven't already completed). Russia likely lost 2x as many dead as when they took Bakhmut...but they still have taken it. This is the first city to fall since Bakhmut. https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1758949767223148781?s=20 EDIT - How do you embed twitter, now? Anyway, watch if you can. Replace x with twitter in the link. I usually get rid of anything from the ? on also. I reloaded the new link on twitter before copying it over here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Jon Stewart goes so fucking hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I didn't find that Daily Show segment worth anything. Even with it being aimed at Tucker, it was more just clowning on him for being a shill--which is something we knew already. I find that Jon Stewart has outlived his usefulness with respect to our political landscape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I saw Tucker and didn't even watch the clip. I know what it is already. We know Fox and it's varieties aren't journalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 55 minutes ago, CayceG said: I didn't find that Daily Show segment worth anything. Even with it being aimed at Tucker, it was more just clowning on him for being a shill--which is something we knew already. I find that Jon Stewart has outlived his usefulness with respect to our political landscape. I'm curious, what would you have liked to see instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 10 minutes ago, Nokra said: I'm curious, what would you have liked to see instead? I think the consensus among people who didn't like last week's TDS is: Pointing out the weaknesses of the Democratic nominee is treasonous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Nokra said: I'm curious, what would you have liked to see instead? Understand that I get Jon Stewart's role here: He's an entertainer and not a journalist. But I think framing this as a "isn't Tucker such a dope for being a shill to Russia" isn't what I want, despite this harkening back to when Jon Stewart dumped on Tucker so bad it got his CNN show cancelled. He took down Tucker point for point (cheap groceries/he spent half the weekly salary of a Russian, neat shopping carts, accepting Putin's framing of issues, "Hitler"/"of course.") which is good. But I just don't think Tucker is an important piece of the puzzle here. The real meat is the false reality the Russian propaganda has constructed around not just the war in Ukraine but the issue of NATO and their history at large. Stewart touched on it with respect to Russian nationalism becoming allies with the far right and many Republicans in the culture war. And there's a larger tie-in between that and the Russian meddling in the 2016 election. But that horse has been beaten to death by now. So, for what I wanted to see... I don't really know that I wanted to see it at all. I've seen others dump on Tucker for this plus all the other stuff he's done. I don't think this is anything new. And it certainly doesn't say anything new about the war or Putin's justification. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 reuters.com WWW.REUTERS.COM Not good news - Iran is supplying Russia with 400 ballistic missiles for use in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 In better news, Ukraine has downed 7 Russian fighter/bombers in the last week alone. Most suspect a forward-operating Patriot battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 A Ukraine aid-supporting House Republican's plea: Biden needs to address the country - Live Updates - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM "I do wish the President would do a major address to the country," the New Jersey Republican said Tuesday. Quote President Joe Biden needs to go on offense to cement a new funding agreement for Ukraine, one of the longest-serving House Republicans said Tuesday. "I do wish the president would do a major address to the country and say, 'This is why,' and then lay it out," Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.) said. His constituents, he added, "are not hearing from the White House, they're just hearing about accusations." I can't say that I disagree with this Republican at all. Biden has absolutely nothing to lose by making a national address on this issue, if it really is as vital as Biden claims that it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Report: North Korean missile fired by Russia against Ukraine contained US and European components | CNN Politics WWW.CNN.COM A North Korean ballistic missile fired last month by the Russian military in Ukraine contained hundreds of components that trace back... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Ukraine has shot down another Russia A-50 AWACS plane: Nice that it's over the Kuban region of Russia, which was actually ethnically Ukrainian until the Soviets removed them. This is two that Ukraine has downed (and damaged a third), meaning that Russia likely only has 2 or maybe 3 remaining in service. Russia is claiming it was friendly fire...again, as if that lie is somehow more palatable? lol 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/20/2024 at 1:31 PM, CayceG said: Understand that I get Jon Stewart's role here: He's an entertainer and not a journalist. But I think framing this as a "isn't Tucker such a dope for being a shill to Russia" isn't what I want, despite this harkening back to when Jon Stewart dumped on Tucker so bad it got his CNN show cancelled. He took down Tucker point for point (cheap groceries/he spent half the weekly salary of a Russian, neat shopping carts, accepting Putin's framing of issues, "Hitler"/"of course.") which is good. But I just don't think Tucker is an important piece of the puzzle here. The real meat is the false reality the Russian propaganda has constructed around not just the war in Ukraine but the issue of NATO and their history at large. Stewart touched on it with respect to Russian nationalism becoming allies with the far right and many Republicans in the culture war. And there's a larger tie-in between that and the Russian meddling in the 2016 election. But that horse has been beaten to death by now. So, for what I wanted to see... I don't really know that I wanted to see it at all. I've seen others dump on Tucker for this plus all the other stuff he's done. I don't think this is anything new. And it certainly doesn't say anything new about the war or Putin's justification. Except Jon has a wider reach and therefore more people are gonna see it. People like us are the minority in this shit country man, anyone who gets more eyes on the topic is good for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Another Su-34 downed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Why the West is losing Ukraine – POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.EU U.S. Republicans blocking aid. European right-wingers pushing to abandon Kyiv. Ultra-cautious leaders. What is the West’s real strategy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Why the West is losing Ukraine – POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.EU U.S. Republicans blocking aid. European right-wingers pushing to abandon Kyiv. Ultra-cautious leaders. What is the West’s real strategy? And Biden has inexplicably not followed the advice from pro-Ukraine Republicans to make a low-risk national address to explain why he considers arming Kyiv to be so very vital to American national interests. Calling Putin a "crazy SOB" in a closed-door campaign fundraiser ain't gonna cut it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: And Biden has inexplicably not followed the advice from pro-Ukraine Republicans to make a low-risk national address to explain why he considers arming Kyiv to be so very vital to American national interests. Calling Putin a "crazy SOB" in a closed-door campaign fundraiser ain't gonna cut it. Biden has done a terrible job framing the conflict to Americans and emphasizing its importance. I would be criticizing him more but he’s all we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Massdriver said: Biden has done a terrible job framing the conflict to Americans and emphasizing its importance. I would be criticizing him more but he’s all we got. The national address is such a low-hanging, relatively politically risk-free action that I can only conclude that the reason Biden hasn't done it yet is because he just really doesn't give a damn about Ukraine any longer, despite what he says publicly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Well, this is a depressing and infuriating analysis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Russia hasn't flown any A-50s since the second downing last week. Either they are scared of losing the last few, or, just as likely, they don't have any other trained crews. The A-50 requires a crew of 15 to operate, and they've lost two active teams in the last few months. The loss of AWACS will force Russia to either fly more fighters closer to the front to provide air radar coverage (exposing them to more AA, which Ukraine is obviously moving forward), or they will be much more blind than before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Possibly 2 more (or 1 more than the last post): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Sri Lanka ends visas for hundreds of thousands of Russians avoiding war WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Investigation launched into order asking Russians to leave country amid blacklash over ‘whites only policy’ Thousands of Russians fled Russia to avoid conscription and other parts of Russian life, and moved to Sri Lanka. Once there...they tried to set up an Apartheid state. They are now being deported back to Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I can sympathize with encourage every Russian to flee to avoid conscription and not be an orc in Ukraine. But if you're just going to go do a racism I'm going to want to send you right back to the front line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On the run from Russia: the defector to Ukraine shot dead on the Costa Blanca | Ukraine | The Guardian AMP.THEGUARDIAN.COM Maksim Kuzminov flew a Russian miltary helicopter to Ukraine. Armed with a new identity, he moved to a Spanish resort. Then he was killed in an underground car park just don’t be like this guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 It should be noted that nothing will come of this, as Russia has almost no troops in the region, and no way of getting more in. Ukraine has troops near that border, and has stated that if Moldova asked, they could "solve the Transnistria problem" in a day. In other words, Ukraine is prepared to invade the breakaway region of Moldova to defeat the Russians there, if asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 13 hours ago, TUFKAK said: On the run from Russia: the defector to Ukraine shot dead on the Costa Blanca | Ukraine | The Guardian AMP.THEGUARDIAN.COM Maksim Kuzminov flew a Russian miltary helicopter to Ukraine. Armed with a new identity, he moved to a Spanish resort. Then he was killed in an underground car park just don’t be like this guy Unbelievably naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Unbelievably naive. You can’t defect, get two service members killed during your defection, openly attack the regime you left then move to a place full of Russians and expect to be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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