Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I can’t understand giving up a typical friendship because of mere beliefs. Actions are a different thing. People believe all sorts of things that don’t meaningfully impact actions. There is plenty of evidence that people have very limited control over what they believe. I also think that friendships fit into very different tiers. I don’t think I could be married to a person who had core convictions and principles that greatly diverged from mine, but I can have a buddy I play Xbox with and occasionally see at parties that hold dumb political views. The depth of the friendship dictates how much variance I can accept. Thinking about my 36 years of life, I’m pretty sure the only times I’ve ever ended a friendship were due to specific actions of a person that I couldn’t tolerate. For the record, I view ALL relationships through my "conditional" lens -- acquaintances, friends, family, romantic partners, etc. All are subject to the same analysis and I draw little-to-no distinction between "beliefs" and "actions" as the belief has the potential to translate into "meaningful" action and that potential is justification enough for me. It's all pretty easy when you view practically everyone as a potential threat that might have to be eliminated someday. For example, when I meet someone new, my first thought is invariably "How difficult would it be for me to kill this person if I had to?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Meanwhile either Sotomayor or Kagan participated from their chambers due to being a lifelong diabetic, I guess this was part of why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Meanwhile either Sotomayor or Kagan participated from their chambers due to being a lifelong diabetic, I guess this was part of why. I blame the heretical, so-called "Protestant Work Ethic" for the emphasis on "me" over "we". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I blame the heretical, so-called "Protestant Work Ethic" for the emphasis on "me" over "we". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Yeah but in reality Catholics would just go to confession for the DUI and get basically the same outcome as the Protestants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Jason said: Yeah but in reality Catholics would just go to confession for the DUI and get basically the same outcome as the Protestants. Yes, while therein lies the beauty of transubstanDUItion. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jason said: Yeah but in reality Catholics would just go to confession for the DUI and get basically the same outcome as the Protestants. Don't forget the penance! That's still a whole bunch more required to earn forgiveness than the "Protestants" have to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: One of the aspects of both Judaism and Islam that I really do appreciate is their rejection of the notion that an individual can have a "personal" relationship with God. The idea that a mere mortal can enter into such a relationship with an entity that represents the totality of everything in the universe and who was, is, and forever will be is philosophically ludicrous on the face of it. And don't get me started on the internal laughter that rabbis and imams must have to stifle when someone claims that Christianity is a monotheistic faith in their presence, because it absolutely is not. Christianity is effectively a Hellenistic religion that "borrowed" a bunch of stuff from the Old Testament to give it some type of foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: One of the aspects of both Judaism and Islam that I really do appreciate is their rejection of the notion that an individual can have a "personal" relationship with God. The idea that a mere mortal can enter into such a relationship with an entity that represents the totality of everything in the universe and who was, is, and forever will be is philosophically ludicrous on the face of it. And don't get me started on the internal laughter that rabbis and imams must have to stifle when someone claims that Christianity is a monotheistic faith in their presence, because it absolutely is not. Christianity is effectively a Hellenistic religion that "borrowed" a bunch of stuff from the Old Testament to give it some type of foundation. I mean I know Catholicism is a Mary cult and I'm assuming the Orthodox church is similar but Protestants...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Jason said: I mean I know Catholicism is a Mary cult and I'm assuming the Orthodox church is similar but Protestants...??? The entire concept of the trinity -- which Protestants also subscribe to -- is rooted in Hellenism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jason said: I mean I know Catholicism is a Mary cult and I'm assuming the Orthodox church is similar but Protestants...??? A Mary cult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Joe said: A Mary cult? "Marian Devotion" is the charge that some Protestants level against Catholics to claim that Catholics aren't "real" Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "Marian Devotion" is the charge that some Protestants level against Catholics to claim that Catholics aren't "real" Christians. You don't need to be a Protestant for it to be obvious Catholics worship Mary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "Marian Devotion" is the charge that some Protestants level against Catholics to claim that Catholics aren't "real" Christians. N00b Jason doesn’t even know about our Saint obsession. I did this with my mom many times as a kid lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 More than Jesus, I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Joe said: N00b Jason doesn’t even know about our Saint obsession. I did this with my mom many times as a kid lmao. See, further proof that it's a pagan religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The problem for the Protestants' charge is that the notion that Mary is "co-redemptrix" along with Christ simply isn't actual Catholic doctrine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jason said: See, further proof that it's a pagan religion. I thought it was a Mary religion. You keep changing your story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joe said: I thought it was a Mary religion. You keep changing your story Being a Mary religion would be pretty Pagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Even without the Marian aspect, claims that Christianity of any variety is purely monotheistic should be met with eye-rolls. It's a Hellenistic mystery cult that lifted heavily from Judaism. End of story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jason said: Being a Mary religion would be pretty Pagan. We pray to them for additional support. We know God can’t hear every prayer. Cucuphas only has to help me find lost things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Joe said: We pray to them for additional support. We know God can’t hear every prayer. Cucuphas only has to help me find lost things! ¡Que mala! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Disability Twitter wants the CDC Director's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Good Lord @ that phrasing. There are a number of ways to express the notion that Omicron's overall risk profile represents a "positive" development relative to the previous variants without echoing the anchor's use of the word "encouraging". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 lol "well look they were probably gonna die anyways so wtbd?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: sbl calls fake news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Minister in the Manitoba government getting destroyed online for this tweet: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Even without the Marian aspect, claims that Christianity of any variety is purely monotheistic should be met with eye-rolls. It's a Hellenistic mystery cult that lifted heavily from Judaism. End of story. It’s Jewish fan fiction that got way out of hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Good Lord @ that phrasing. There are a number of ways to express the notion that Omicron's overall risk profile represents a "positive" development relative to the previous variants without echoing the anchor's use of the word "encouraging". Yea she did a shit at the talking points but I doubt she meant it the way other folks are taking it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Our friend's household is infected. They had a contractor in last week for their bathroom and apparently he was coughing the entire time. Our friend's mom (I'll call her the grandma) lives with them (helps take care of their toddler during the day), and thought the cough was "because it was cold out." Now the grandma has a really bad cough and fever (she's triple vaccinated, fortunately), and the toddler has a fever of 102.7 and a cough. Both the as t positive on rapid tests. Our friend and her husband are so far asymptomatic and testing negative (but assume they have it). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: One of the aspects of both Judaism and Islam that I really do appreciate is their rejection of the notion that an individual can have a "personal" relationship with God. The idea that a mere mortal can enter into such a relationship with an entity that represents the totality of everything in the universe and who was, is, and forever will be is philosophically ludicrous on the face of it. And don't get me started on the internal laughter that rabbis and imams must have to stifle when someone claims that Christianity is a monotheistic faith in their presence, because it absolutely is not. Christianity is effectively a Hellenistic religion that "borrowed" a bunch of stuff from the Old Testament to give it some type of foundation. American Protestantism is nuts. Hearing a worship song that goes "I love you Daddy" just gave me the creeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: nd don't get me started on the internal laughter that rabbis and imams must have to stifle when someone claims that Christianity is a monotheistic faith in their presence, because it absolutely is not I've been asking Christians to explain this to me my whole life. I've never understood the whole trinity... I get The Father and The Son. But who the hell is The Holy Ghost?! I've asked that my whole life and no one has never asnswered it for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: I've been asking Christians to explain this to me my whole life. I've never understood the whole trinity... I get The Father and The Son. But who the hell is The Holy Ghost?! I've asked that my whole life and no one has never asnswered it for me. The Holy Ghost is who horny teenagers are supposed to leave room for at school sanctioned dances, duh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I've been asking Christians to explain this to me my whole life. I've never understood the whole trinity... I get The Father and The Son. But who the hell is The Holy Ghost?! I've asked that my whole life and no one has never asnswered it for me. 3 separate but equal parts of a whole entity. My brother law describes it like a crime a syndicate. God is 1 part and he is the brains of the operation . Jesus is 1 part and he the messenger for the operation. The Holy Spirit is 1 part and is the muscle. If person prays to God for help because they are in need of spiritual help, and God answers , the help comes in the form of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit also fights Sin and the Antichrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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