stepee Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/21/grab-the-babies-duck-boat-tragedy-kills-nine-members-of-the-same-family/?utm_term=.f9e9ab51262e One survivor lost three children and her husband along with 5 other family members. If you want to donate to help her with this tragic loss: https://www.gofundme.com/coleman-family-boat-accident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Is it wrong that this being a high casualty event immediately made more sense once I saw the picture of the black family? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Is it wrong that this being a high casualty event immediately made more sense once I saw the picture of the black family? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I had no idea it was a black family until I saw the survivor on the news this morning. Not that it matters... shit is tragic either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, stepee said: Yes. But black people not knowing how to swim is legitimately a thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: But black people not knowing how to swim is legitimately a thing? Jesus, this is where you want to take THIS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jason said: But black people not knowing how to swim is legitimately a thing? Black people from Urban areas yes... and knowing how to swim wouldn't have helped much in this situation considering the boat sank during a storm, black or white... maybe an Atlantean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jason said: But black people not knowing how to swim is legitimately a thing? It’s definitely a thing and harkens back to segregation when many pools were white only, and blacks were treated violently at the pools that weren’t officially segregated. My Granny still won’t go near a pool. But I’m pretty sure most folks who are proficient in the pool would have had difficulty in a boat capsizing scenario in the middle of a powerful storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, sblfilms said: But I’m pretty sure most folks who are proficient in the pool would have had difficulty in a boat capsizing scenario in the middle of a powerful storm. This occurred to me, but 14 out of 31 people on the boat survived. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jason said: This occurred to me, but 14 out of 31 people on the boat survived. You are really committed to this angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 A lot of the victims were either elderly or young children who probably didn't have the strength to swim out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Threads like these are why i always chuckle when I hear white people say that black people are obsessed with race... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, sblfilms said: You are really committed to this angle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scape Zero Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, Jason said: But black people not knowing how to swim is legitimately a thing? ... Wait really? And people get pissed at the shit I say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Jason gonna get fired soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Why weren't there life vests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Emblazon said: Why weren't there life vests? They were told not to put them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Emblazon said: Why weren't there life vests? There were life vests but they were not wearing them and were told they would not need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Emblazon said: Why weren't there life vests? There were. But the captain said you’ll most likely not need these.As they head towards a storm. It happened quick, no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: There are life vests but they were not wearing them and were told they would not need them. 1 minute ago, stepee said: There were. But the captain said you’ll most likely not need these.As they head towards a storm. It happened quick, no time. Also I’m not sure you were aware, but black people were involved. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I mean this company is obviously about to get sued into oblivion...but they might have an out because the family is black and people will find something in their past to say they deserved it. "The family were no angels." Horribly tragedy, and the tour guides should be in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Jason said: But black people not knowing how to swim is legitimately a thing? Is there any evidence that supports this notion? If so, I would like to read it. Also, if so, would it be wrong to post it? Why or why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Horribly tragedy, and the tour guides should be in prison. You think there was any malice or ill intent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: Is there any evidence that supports this notion? If so, I would like to read it. Also, if so, would it be wrong to post it? Why or why not? https://www.amazon.com/Contested-Waters-History-Swimming-America/dp/0807871273?crid=2RPPDCTSRALG3&keywords=contested+waters+a+social+history+of+swimming+pools+in+america&qid=1532219544&sprefix=contested+water&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 It’s a good book that covers the issue in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: It’s definitely a thing and harkens back to segregation when many pools were white only, and blacks were treated violently at the pools that weren’t officially segregated. My Granny still won’t go near a pool. But I’m pretty sure most folks who are proficient in the pool would have had difficulty in a boat capsizing scenario in the middle of a powerful storm. Back when I went through Navy boot camp in 2003, most of the guys who needed to learn how to swim were black. There was a very shallow pool next to the real pool for all the guys who didn't know how to swim yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: You think there was any malice or ill intent? Depending on the facts and circumstances, there could be "criminal negligence" involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Depending on the facts and circumstances, there could be "criminal negligence" involved. This is probably going to do them in: Quote The National Weather Service before noon had predicted the possibility of serious storms and high winds by late Thursday afternoon and issued a warning that a storm was imminent at 6:32 p.m.; the boat sank at about 7 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Just now, Jason said: This is probably going to do them in: Yeah, I think the victims' families will easily win a lawsuit against the company that operated the duck boats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Inspector-warned-duck-boat-company-of-design-13094546.php Quote A private inspector said Saturday that he warned the company operating duck boats on a Missouri lake about design flaws putting the watercraft at greater risk of sinking, less than a year before the accident that killed 17 people during a sudden storm. Steve Paul, owner of the Test Drive Technologies inspection service in the St. Louis area, said he issued a written report for the company in August 2017. It explained why the boats' engines — and pumps that remove water from their hulls — might fail in inclement weather. He also told The Associated Press that the tourist boats' canopies make them hard to escape when they sink — a concern raised by regulators after a similar sinking in Arkansas killed 13 people in 1999. The accident Thursday evening on Table Rock Lake outside the tourist town of Branson also is raising questions about whether storm warnings in the area went unheeded and whether any agency can keep boaters off the water when inclement weather approaches. "If you have the information that you could have rough waters or a storm coming, why ever put a boat on that water?" Paul said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Remarkableriots said: https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Inspector-warned-duck-boat-company-of-design-13094546.php R'uh R'oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The swimming pool thing is addressed in this brief video. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysDyingX Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 So @BlueAngel is @Jason‘s alt? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I was talking to a lawyer friend of mine and he said it’s unlikely given Missouri tort law that this company will face any real monetary penalty. Given the situation, it’s also unlikely the insurance company will pay out liability claims and will say the coverage was invalid due to operational and fleet maintenance issues. Some truly infuriating stuff continues to come out about these jackals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I was talking to a lawyer friend of mine and he said it’s unlikely given Missouri tort law that this company will face any real monetary penalty. Given the situation, it’s also unlikely the insurance company will pay out liability claims and will say the coverage was invalid due to operational and fleet maintenance issues. Some truly infuriating stuff continues to come out about these jackals. better hit the gofundme link so we the people can help them instead of the people who should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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