Comet Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 This is breaking news, close to home (it was my home). Early reports are as many as 18 shot. For those who don’t know, that area is where all the Mexican tourists go to for shopping. My brother is a journalist there so I’ll post as I hear anything new. edit - my brother is going live on the scene and he says it’s horrific. Not sure what to make of that. edit 2 - confirmed multiple shooters Quote
Littleronin Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 This quote that gets me and is something that we here time after time. "We never thought it would be so close to us this time," he said. "You see on the news all the time, but you don't think it could happen here until it does." Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 The police have not confirmed the presence of multiple gunmen, only that there are "reports" of multiple gunmen which are usually the case with all of these incidents. Quote
SuperSpreader Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 CNN says mayor's chief of staff says suspects are in custody Quote
Comet Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: The police have not confirmed the presence of multiple gunmen, only that there are "reports" of multiple gunmen which are usually the case with all of these incidents. Don’t have a source other than what KVIA reported on air just now, but multiple suspects arrested. I thought the same thing since every shooting has those reports from the echoes of the shots. We will know soon. Quote
TheLeon Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 Gonna make for an awkward People of Walmart entry. 1 Quote
Comet Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 My wife’s aunt who lives there is a nurse and her and many others are being called into hospitals for added support. Ugh Quote
Comet Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 Back down to only 1 suspect arrested per police chief. Quote
SuperSpreader Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 School starts soon in TX and things like uniforms are required. I wonder how many people were there for back to school shopping this weekend. Quote
Comet Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: School starts soon in TX and things like uniforms are required. I wonder how many people were there for back to school shopping this weekend. It was Tax Free weekend. Outside of Black Friday, this is the busiest time of the year for Cielo Vista Mall (and of course the Walmart there). 2 Quote
SuperSpreader Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Comet said: It was Tax Free weekend. Outside of Black Friday, this is the busiest time of the year for Cielo Vista Mall (and of course the Walmart there). Jesus. Quote
MarSolo Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 So was the mall a gun free zone or was it filled with trigger happy Texans? Quote
Littleronin Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 Time to arm Wal-Mart greeters with guns. Quote
silentbob Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, MarSolo said: So was the mall a gun free zone or was it filled with trigger happy Texans? CNN had someone on as a witness and mentioned he had his gun with them and took it out to run kids out to safety. Remember being in Austin and seeing the Target store with signage saying to have all guns holstered and visible when entering the store. As a Canadian visiting the area, it was a bit shocking seeing that and assumed that it’s that way everywhere in Texas. Quote
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, Comet said: Back down to only 1 suspect arrested per police chief. Did the others die in police custody or just escape? Quote
Comet Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Did the others die in police custody or just escape? If there was more than one, thy probably were killed. There’s footage of a dead person near the Walmart entrance which people were saying was a shooter, but that’s Twitter so fucking knows. Quote
Remarkableriots Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 Quote A shooting at an El Paso Walmart forced a Texas congresswoman to abruptly cut short a Saturday town hall at a local high school. Rep. Veronica Escobar, a freshman Democrat who represents El Paso, was roughly an hour into the town hall at the city's Coronado High School when it appeared she received news of the shooting. After she answered a question about conditions for migrants at the southern border, two people walked to the front of the auditorium and removed the microphone from her hand. The scene, captured on a live video feed on the congresswoman's Facebook page, shows a few seconds of inaudible speaking before Escobar again takes the microphone. "You all, I am so sorry, there's an active shooter. We are going to need to clear the event," said Escobar. After an aide immediately tells her something, Escobar quickly clarified the incident was near Cielo Vista Mall, roughly 14 miles away. "Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I apologize," she told crowd. "Let's take a deep breath. So we've been asked by law enforcement to just send everybody home." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/03/el-paso-walmart-shooting-rep-veronica-escobar-town-hall-cut-short/1910338001/ Quote
mclumber1 Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, MarSolo said: So was the mall a gun free zone or was it filled with trigger happy Texans? "No guns allowed" signs are enforced under criminal law in Texas. If a sign is posted on the front door of a business, and you have a gun, you will be prosecuted under state law. It's up to each business if they want to have a no gun policy though. https://www.compliancesigns.com/media/PDF/QA-TX-Weapons.pdf Link above is what the signs look like, and additional information on enforcement. I do not know if this Walmart was posted as a gun free zone, but I doubt it. Quote
osxmatt Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 Good thing Texas has lax gun laws and the public was able to shoot back and mitigate this before it became serious. 1 Quote
mclumber1 Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I'm sure Trump supporters will do everything they can (and fail) to distance themselves from this incident. But the facts are that his rhetoric is a prime motivator for mentally ill people like his. Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I'm sure Trump supporters will do everything they can (and fail) to distance themselves from this incident. But the facts are that his rhetoric is a prime motivator for mentally ill people like his. I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the "mentally ill" garbage being trotted out in these events. A person can be completely and totally rational and perpetuate an act like this. It's conceptually no different than the very rational Nazis gathered at the Wannsee Conference to hammer out the logistics of the Holocaust. Blaming mental illness is a convenient way for gun zealots to sweep it under the rug. 1 2 Quote
Comet Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the "mentally ill" garbage being trotted out in these events. A person can be completely and totally rational and perpetuate an act like this. It's conceptually no different than the very rational Nazis gathered at the Wannsee Conference to hammer out the logistics of the Holocaust. Blaming mental illness is a convenient way for gun zealots to sweep it under the rug. Joke’s on you, the Wannsee Conference was a mental health awareness conference. Quote
mclumber1 Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the "mentally ill" garbage being trotted out in these events. A person can be completely and totally rational and perpetuate an act like this. It's conceptually no different than the very rational Nazis gathered at the Wannsee Conference to hammer out the logistics of the Holocaust. I don't mean "mentally ill" in the same frame of reference as someone who is experiencing mental illness, so it's a poor choice of words on my part. There is something wrong with people who choose to do these things - whether it is a lack of morality, vengeance, little man syndrome, whatever - the point is something isn't working correctly in their minds to the point where they either don't realize the inherent evilness of their actions, or they think it is a right course of action. Quote
Guest Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 Wow. My wife is from a little town called Anthony which sits half in Texas and half in New Mexico, so a few of her cousins in the medical field have be called in to assist. Tired of these stories. Quote
osxmatt Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Casualty reports by twitter, smh ElPaso Quote
Remarkableriots Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Comet said: It was Tax Free weekend. Outside of Black Friday, this is the busiest time of the year for Cielo Vista Mall (and of course the Walmart there). Quote Texas Tax Free Weekend 2019 is scheduled for August 9th-11th, 2019. Texas Tax Free Dates below. https://www.freetaxweekend.com/texas-tax-free-weekend/ Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 The domestic terrorist who did this turned 21 this week. No, I'm not going to give his name. You can readily find that everywhere else. Quote
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