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5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

One of the best comedies of all time. I'm 32 and I watched reruns of the show billions of times on TNT back in the day. Love it. It's still funny, the laugh track and clapping are the only things that really date it. 

 

I actually prefer live audiences. An actor being able to work the audience and feed off them is a lot of fun to watch.

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2 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

I actually prefer live audiences. An actor being able to work the audience and feed off them is a lot of fun to watch.

 

For sure but it's tacky when watching in retrospect (to me) because laugh tracks are a method to tell me what to laugh at and it just feels kind of dumb. It's antiquated but tolerable. I'm sure while filming it made sense but all the pauses they do in scenes to wait for the laughing to start or stop is annoying. :p 

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2 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

For sure but it's tacky when watching in retrospect (to me) because laugh tracks are a method to tell me what to laugh at and it just feels kind of dumb. It's antiquated but tolerable. I'm sure while filming it made sense but all the pauses they do in scenes to wait for the laughing to start or stop is annoying. :p 

 

I mean, I enjoy it similar to watching a play. There's a lot more excitement for me when there is a crowd to play off of. Reminds me of the talking dirty scene:

 

 

 

The build-up to what Jerry said is fantastic, but being able to laugh with the audience when the reveal is made is far more entertaining. Plus, it gives you a chance to stop laughing at the damn thing lest you miss something :pI feel it's probably more fun for the actors as well (except Richards who needed everything timed perfectly lmao). 

 

It's so much harder for me to get into the ones from this century like Office, Curb Your Enthusiasm and Parks and Rec. Course, it helps that Seinfeld is a better written show. But I feel that there's more energy and dare I saw more larger-than-life characters in shows like All in the Family or Frasier or Seinfeld.

 

It's hard for me to put my finger on what makes that so.

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7 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

 

I mean, I enjoy it similar to watching a play. There's a lot more excitement for me when there is a crowd to play off of. Reminds me of the talking dirty scene.

 

The build-up to what Jerry said is fantastic, but being able to laugh with the audience when the reveal is made is far more entertaining. Plus, it gives you a chance to stop laughing at the damn thing lest you miss something :pI feel it's probably more fun for the actors as well (except Richards who needed everything timed perfectly lmao). 

 

It's so much harder for me to get into the ones from this century like Office, Curb Your Enthusiasm and Parks and Rec. Course, it helps that Seinfeld is a better written show. But I feel that there's more energy and dare I saw more larger-than-life characters in shows like All in the Family or Frasier or Seinfeld.

 

It's hard for me to put my finger on what makes that so.

 

The problem is a lot of the laugh track is canned, not just always from the live studio audience. That's the problem (for me) - it feels forced. Trust your audience is one of the key aspects of art - I'll know when to laugh, if it's funny, I'll laugh regardless.

 

On the flipside, live audiences for stand up specials really help stand up shows, so I get what you mean at the same time. I dunno, I'm not against it but I think most would agree it is dated, whether one likes it or not.

 

More importantly, how good is Seinfeld? REALLY GOOD. :p 

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10 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

One of the best comedies of all time. I'm 32 and I watched reruns of the show billions of times on TNT back in the day. Love it. It's still funny, the laugh track and clapping are the only things that really date it. 

 

They played reruns of it (maybe they still do) on the local channel at 11pm after the news, 2 episodes and I watched it that way for years.

 

I had never actually seen it as it aired, in high school people always said Seinfeld sucked so I never bothered.

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Still watch it regularly honestly. It's always on somewhere and if it's not, I'll throw on an episode or two via streaming anyway. 

 

My favorite seasons are still the later ones. It always felt like they got more absurd, mean-spirited, and therefore funny, as the show went along. The whole running gag of George's fiance fucking dying from the stamps is one of my favorite moments of sheer misanthropy and the cherry on top of this show. 

 

One of the funniest moments of the entire show though, lord:

 

woman friday GIF

 

And never forget The Merv Griffin Show. 

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1 hour ago, Bloodporne said:

Still watch it regularly honestly. It's always on somewhere and if it's not, I'll throw on an episode or two via streaming anyway. 

 

My favorite seasons are still the later ones. It always felt like they got more absurd, mean-spirited, and therefore funny, as the show went along. The whole running gag of George's fiance fucking dying from the stamps is one of my favorite moments of sheer misanthropy and the cherry on top of this show. 

 

One of the funniest moments of the entire show though, lord:

 

woman friday GIF

 

And never forget The Merv Griffin Show. 

 

Merv Griffin was during Season 9 which, for my money, was actually better overall than Season 8 since it knew what it was at that point post-Larry David (more a skit show with some relatable humor). Stuff like The Burning or the toilet brush girlfriend or the Frogger sequence or the on-and-off Puddy relationship, they're all aces. Season 9 had the lows of the last two episodes, though. It does end in a whimper. :( 

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18 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

I've always secretly loved that Seinfeld is just playing himself and truly is as mean in real life. Love Comedians In Cars... for it. 

 

I know he apparently can't act, but being himself is hilarious. So I never ever feel like I'm watching a terrible actor.

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1 minute ago, Rodimus said:

So if Seinfeld came out in July the network had little faith in the show to premiere in the middle of the summer.

 

Yes, I believe it was one guy in NBC who had confidence, IIRC. Regardless, the pilot was so bland lol. I remember buying the first few seasons years ago, watching the pilot and thinking, "It does get better than this, right? Is this not as good as I remember?" :p 

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It’s Always Sunny had a similar arc where the first season is rough and the second season especially when DeVito was introduced started to become something good. 

 

Well the more I think most comedies I really liked (Parks and Rec and The Office) all took a while to get going. 

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6 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

Yes, I believe it was one guy in NBC who had confidence, IIRC. Regardless, the pilot was so bland lol. I remember buying the first few seasons years ago, watching the pilot and thinking, "It does get better than this, right? Is this not as good as I remember?" :p 

 

Hey that coffee bit at the beginning killed!

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36 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

Yes, I believe it was one guy in NBC who had confidence, IIRC. Regardless, the pilot was so bland lol. I remember buying the first few seasons years ago, watching the pilot and thinking, "It does get better than this, right? Is this not as good as I remember?" :p 

I think the show just got better and better. I can't remember exactly remember where I kind of "drew the line", but I always remember the first two seasons maybe being just not that funny. The meaner and more outlandish it got, the funnier the show was. I loved all the ridiculous shit with Peterman going to the jungle, Jackie Chiles and what not. 

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54 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

 

The funnier parts of this are outside of this clip:

 

"I said or something... OR SOMETHING!"

"Yeah. That's a date."

 

"You said you liked horse manure?"

"Yeah. You know, about how when you break it down, it's really a very positive thing. you know, you have a “nure,” with a “ma” in front of it. MA-NURE. It's not bad."

"And it was around this point that she mentioned the boyfriend?"

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Just now, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

The funnier parts of this are outside of this clip:

 

"I said or something... OR SOMETHING!"

"Yeah. That's a date."

 

"You said you liked horse manure?"

"Yeah. You know, about how when you break it down, it's really a very positive thing. you know, you have a “nure,” with a “ma” in front of it. MA-NURE. It's not bad."

"And it was around this point that she mentioned the boyfriend?"

 

I just realized this is the same episode as the soup with Bania.

 

Damn fine episode.

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