jinx8402 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Not dumb. I am also wondering this. I am also wondering Hide contents what she did to make Ben turn? Like, he was in the middle of that fight and then was just like "Wait... I'm good now, actually." after a brief cut to Leia. Spoiler Did...she possess him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Spoiler kylo was horny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzo Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Spoiler “What about a Holdo maneuver?” ”that was a 1 in a million shot, won’t work” Finale: Shot of a Final Order destroyer being taken down by the Holdo maneuver over Endor. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Anzo said: Hide contents I don’t think anything she did made Ben turn good. It was Rey healing him and saying “I do want to take your hand...Ben’s hand.” Spoiler I didn't get that. It seemed like in the fight Kylo started to hesitate more and more with each attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Not dumb. I am also wondering this. I am also wondering Reveal hidden contents what she did to make Ben turn? Like, he was in the middle of that fight and then was just like "Wait... I'm good now, actually." after a brief cut to Leia. My read on that was basically Spoiler Oh shit my mom still loves me after all this nonsense, that's distracting. Fuck I got stabbed I'm going to die before I ever touched a boob. Shit I'm getting healed and I could have had a girlfriend this whole time? Dad memories activate I need to role play my emotional healing because my therapist said so. Ah fuck I fell down a hole, let me heal you Rey. My god I'm such a virgin that my lips touching a girl's lips mean I Force cum my way to being a ghost, goodbye cruel world... Kidding aside... Spoiler The moment with Rey and Ben at the end with Driver smiling at Rey... that's good acting from both of them. Yes I will forgive you for a genocide because I want to sail on the good ship Reylo oh fuck he's dead but if ghost Luke can hold a lightsaber maybe ghost Ben can fuck. Maybe not kidding aside in hindsight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Man reading this thread is reminding me that this movie was . . . not good. Just good enough, maybe. It felt like a YA adaptation. Abrams' editing was atrocious in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzo Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Reveal hidden contents I didn't get that. It seemed like in the fight Kylo started to hesitate more and more with each attack. Spoiler He was slowly over powering her at the end there, I took the slowness as dramatic effect to highlight how much more powerful he was than her in that moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Man reading this thread is reminding me that this movie was . . . not good. Just good enough, maybe. It felt like a YA adaptation. Abrams' editing was atrocious in this. The editing is the worst part of the craft on display in the film. Really poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Remember when Spoiler Palpatine had to explain the concept of Force slurp out loud as he was doing it? And that he was surprised that Kylo and Rey were linked via the Force? Even though Snoke did the linking? And it was Palpatine that made Snoke? So he shouldn't have been surprised at all, since he did that? Great writing, you hacks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: So question about The First Order: Reveal hidden contents They're still around, right??? Most of what blew up was the Sith fleet and the one FO ship that was going to guide them out. Did I miss something? Spoiler Do you really care at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: That doesn't mean there isn't a group above them dictating the content I think they have more control than you think. That might be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I am surprised that some of you had a lot of groaning when my audience had none except for that one guy at the end. My audience in particular loved and squealed out in girlish delight when Spoiler Rey and Kylo kissed, but that might just be because over half of the audiance was chicks. There were loads of chicks at my viewing. I was very surprised. There were also people that clapped when Spoiler Force Ghost Luke caught the Lightsaber and said that one liner in response to TLJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Hide contents Do you really care at this point? I mean kind of. I still love Star Wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Someone PLEASE explain to me... HOW THE HELL IS THERE ANY WRECKAGE LEFT FROM THIS?!?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, SFLUFAN said: Someone PLEASE explain to me... Hide contents HOW THE HELL IS THERE ANY WRECKAGE FROM THIS?!?!? The Force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I will say that while I think overall this movie was trying to undo TLJ, it did build on it in some cool ways too. Spoiler Force Time in this movie was so good. TLJ established that physical things can be moved this way too. The necklace was a good reminder with the lightsaber being a great payoff. Luke learned from his mistakes; a continuation on the theme of that movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Also, I'd fucking L O V E it if Kylo got Rey Spoiler Force Pregnant. Similar to what happened with Shmi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: I mean kind of. I still love Star Wars. I do too... a lot. I'm just more than ready to move on to different stuff set in this universe. We got two out of three really good Star Wars properties this year and one kinda ok one. That's better than most years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Anzo said: Hide contents “What about a Holdo maneuver?” ”that was a 1 in a million shot, won’t work” Finale: Shot of a Final Order destroyer being taken down by the Holdo maneuver over Endor. Spoiler I don't think that was the Holdo maneuver - I honestly believe that all of the Sith Fleet destroyers were taken down because they no longer being "powered" the Emperor's dark side Sith power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Also, I'd fucking L O V E it if Kylo got Rey Spoiler Force Pregnant. Similar to what happened with Shmi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I mean kind of. I still love Star Wars. Spoiler I feel they kind of established that they were gathering forces at the Sith planet. That's why Pryde was there (that actor... so good. Loved him). That combined with Holdo decimating the fleet in TLJ makes me feel like they're gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, SFLUFAN said: Hide contents I don't think that was the Holdo maneuver - I honestly believe that all of the Sith Fleet destroyers were taken down because they no longer being "powered" the Emperor's dark side Sith power. Spoiler Pretty sure most of the ships outside the Unknown Regions were NOT the Sith fleet. It was the First Order fleet. Couldn't tell you why they blew up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I will say that while I think overall this movie was trying to undo TLJ, it did build on it in some cool ways too. Hide contents Force Time in this movie was so good. TLJ established that physical things can be moved this way too. The necklace was a good reminder with the lightsaber being a great payoff. Luke learned from his mistakes; a continuation on the theme of that movie. I'm really glad to hear this. Seeing all the negative reacts is one thing. But seeing a positive development that built on the story/character trajectory is really good. At least it all won't be thrown away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 What became really clear in this film: Spoiler The First Order's military REALLY didn't seem to be that large at all, certainly not compared to the Galactic Empire. The impression I now have is that the First Order was more of a well-funded terrorist organization rather than an actual military state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzo Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Hide contents I don't think that was the Holdo maneuver - I honestly believe that all of the Sith Fleet destroyers were taken down because they no longer being "powered" the Emperor's dark side Sith power. Spoiler Maybe so but it sure looked like this but from the viewpoint of the planets surface. Spoiler There were a couple different shots of destroyers falling, one or two were clearly what you are describing. I’m just saying that the one the Ewoks were looking at looked like the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Oh and did they Spoiler Set up Lando and that ex Stormtropper chick for their own show? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 54 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: That doesn't mean there isn't a group above them dictating the content Content isn’t direction, and direction is explicitly what Skillz was speaking to. Nobody was telling JJ to have characters run up to the camera and yell their lines, over, and over, and over, like in all his movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Content isn’t direction, and direction is explicitly what Skillz was speaking to. Nobody was telling JJ to have characters run up to the camera and yell their lines, over, and over, and over, like in all his movies Exactly right. They're not micro-managing these movies to that degree. There would be absolutely nor point in hiring and paying these directors so much if they were. That's not how the industry works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The editing is the worst part of the craft on display in the film. Really poor. Agreed. It was really bad. After seeing TFA and how tight the film was despite its go-go-go pacing, I at least expected lots of money shots and good editing, but no (there didn't appear to be any of the cinematography growth Abrams showed from TFA in this for the most part). 32 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Remember when Hide contents Palpatine had to explain the concept of Force slurp out loud as he was doing it? And that he was surprised that Kylo and Rey were linked via the Force? Even though Snoke did the linking? And it was Palpatine that made Snoke? So he shouldn't have been surprised at all, since he did that? Great writing, you hacks. I'm with you, but I think the idea was: That Palpatine didn't expect the connection he was having them make become a "force bond" (as that's unique) as opposed to something that simply fucked with both of them to lure one to at least come completely to the dark side. They were "force bonding" on their own in TROS compared to TLJ, which was Snoke. Lame explanation at best, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 My audience was pretty mild to the fan service. Some cheers but you could tell it wasnt that many people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bacon said: I am surprised that some of you had a lot of groaning when my audience had none except for that one guy at the end. My audience in particular loved and squealed out in girlish delight when Hide contents Rey and Kylo kissed, but that might just be because over half of the audiance was chicks. There were loads of chicks at my viewing. I was very surprised. There were also people that clapped when Hide contents Force Ghost Luke caught the Lightsaber and said that one liner in response to TLJ. Sure, there were good moments in the film, no doubt, but good individual fan-service-y moments don't make a good movie. They make a good movie better, but when the basics of your film are falling apart as we zoom from one set piece to another with hardly a breath, with chemistry and fun dialogue replacing investment into character and emotional building, then it doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 The editing was REALLY bad especially in the beginning of the movie. No pacing and just some really awkward cuts. There was one sequence in particular that jumped out to me Spoiler After Kylo heals Rey and collapses, he starts to fade away RIGHT as the camera cuts back to her reaction. You see the beginning of him fading for like a couple of frames before it cuts to her, then it cuts back to him and we see him fade away. So sloppy. My guess is they were sprinting to the finish and don't be surprised to see that instance fixed by the time the movie comes out on DVD and streaming. Remember I said it. That's just really bad craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Also does anyone else get the sense that Spoiler Finn is at the very least Force sensitive? It would make sense to be honest... he seems pretty comfortable with a light saber and could sense Rey like Leah could sense Luke in the OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: Also does anyone else get the sense that Hide contents Finn is at the very least Force sensitive? It would make sense to be honest... he seems pretty comfortable with a light saber and could sense Rey like Leah could sense Luke in the OT. They practically slapped us in the face with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Dammit! This two thread thing is confusing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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