Movies Tarantino Changes His Mind About His 10th Movie

[TwinIon]

Tarantino has long declared his intention to only make ten movies, and for a while now that tenth and final film was to be “The Movie Critic,” a story based on a real person who was writing movie reviews for a porn rag in the late 70s. Brad Pitt had been attached to star though production had been stalled by a rewrite.

 

Now it appears the film has been dropped because Tarantino has simply changed his mind.

 

Quentin Tarantino Drops ‘The Movie Critic’ As His Final Film

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Quentin Tarantino has changed his mind about making The Movie Critic, scrapping the film as his 10th and final project.

 

As the article mentions, this isn’t entirely unlike what happened with The Hateful Eight. QT was nearing production and he changed his mind and shelved the project for a while.

 

Whatever he does as his next film and whatever becomes of The Movie Critic, I just hope that Tarantino has more final films than Miyazaki. Or at least he keeps writing scripts. If nothing else he’s a singular voice in filmmaking and the cinema landscape would be lesser without him.

 

[skillzdadirecta]

I really think he should approach a Streaming service and do a Ten episode Magnum Opus. He writes scripts like novels andyway and aways has to edit himself down. I'd be curious to see what Tarantino's work would look like if runtime wasn't a consideration. Outside of that, he's been hit or miss for me with his last couple of films.

[Littleronin]

7 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

I really think he should approach a Streaming service and do a Ten episode Magnum Opus. He writes scripts like novels andyway and aways has to edit himself down. I'd be curious to see what Tarantino's work would look like if runtime wasn't a consideration. Outside of that, he's been hit or miss for me with his last couple of films.

In his mind I think he sees that as not being a real filmmaker. 

[TheLeon]

He wasn’t above working in TV when he directed episodes of ER and CSI, although maybe he saw those more like gimmicks (what’s “stunt casting” for TV directors?) and not really working in TV. But it would be an easy workaround if he really wants to stop at 10 movies but keep working. 

[Kamusha]

His whole retiring after 10 movies thing is dumb. Also I'm not sure if he's counting both volumes of Kill Bill as one movie* or not counting Death Proof as a movie, because otherwise he has already released 10 movies.

 

 

*I personally count the Kill Bills as a single movie. If you can watch them both in the same day it's quite the experience.

[SaysWho?]

19 minutes ago, Kamusha said:

His whole retiring after 10 movies thing is dumb. Also I'm not sure if he's counting both volumes of Kill Bill as one movie* or not counting Death Proof as a movie, because otherwise he has already released 10 movies.

 

 

*I personally count the Kill Bills as a single movie. If you can watch them both in the same day it's quite the experience.

 

Tarantino agrees with you.

 

Quentin Tarantino Ends the ‘Kill Bill’ Debate Once and For All: It’s Not Two Movies

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The "Kill Bill" two-movie truthers are wrong, Tarantino says.

 

[Greatoneshere]

On 4/18/2024 at 8:45 AM, Kamusha said:

His whole retiring after 10 movies thing is dumb. Also I'm not sure if he's counting both volumes of Kill Bill as one movie* or not counting Death Proof as a movie, because otherwise he has already released 10 movies.

 

I think "it can only be 10 movies" is dumb too, but Tarantino counts the Kill Bill films as one film, and he does count Death Proof as a film (the unrated, extended cut of Death Proof is definitely its own movie), which means he's currently at 9 films written/directed by that measure. His reasoning is he wants a perfect filmography and not one which starts to get rote or bad as a director gets too old or makes too many films.

 

The two written works Tarantino counts as being written by him (that he did not direct), True Romance (Tony Scott) and From Dusk till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez), do not count as part of the 10 films. Tarantino pretty much hates Natural Born Killers since Oliver Stone changed his screenplay so much, so that's never counted for anything. Obviously the episode he directed for ER and his two-parter for CSI don't count either. His guest directed scene for Sin City doesn't count either nor does his written/directed short that is part of the Four Rooms four short film anthology. His experimental unofficial first film, My Best Friend's Birthday, has been long lost to time and went unfinished so that also doesn't count. That covers everything.

 

On 4/18/2024 at 7:19 AM, TheLeon said:

He wasn’t above working in TV when he directed episodes of ER and CSI, although maybe he saw those more like gimmicks (what’s “stunt casting” for TV directors?) and not really working in TV. But it would be an easy workaround if he really wants to stop at 10 movies but keep working. 

 

I believe Tarantino is far more open to working in TV today than he used to be, but I believe he did those episodes of ER and CSI because he said he was a fan of the shows when each was airing. It seemed at one point he might make a DiCaprio as Rick Dalton TV series, but I don't think that will materialize now, but he seemed open to it if DiCaprio would ever do it. He did also release The Hateful Eight: Extended Edition on Netflix, which was a four-episode miniseries version of the theatrical release which feels like him dipping his toes into TV waters (if people recall Tarantino did release a "roadshow" version of The Hateful Eight in theaters as well which was 187 minutes, but the extended version is 210 minutes, even longer). Just as a side note, it will be leaving Netflix on April 24th (both versions of the film).

[skillzdadirecta]

4 hours ago, Littleronin said:

In his mind I think he sees that as not being a real filmmaker. 

If he was willing to direct episodes of CSI or ER, than he shouldn't have a problem directing a 10 episode mini-series. It would basically be like directing a really long movie. A lot of big time A list directors have directed TV in this modern era of premium TV.

[SaysWho?]

25 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

I think "it can only be 10 movies" is dumb too, but Tarantino counts the Kill Bill films as one film, and he does count Death Proof as a film (the unrated, extended cut of Death Proof is definitely its own movie), which means he's currently at 9 films written/directed by that measure. His reasoning is he wants a perfect filmography and not one which starts to get rote or bad as a director gets too old or makes too many films.

 

The two written works Tarantino counts as being written by him (that he did not direct), True Romance (Tony Scott) and From Dusk till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez), do not count as part of the 10 films. Tarantino pretty much hates Natural Born Killers since Oliver Stone changed his screenplay so much, so that's never counted for anything. Obviously the episode he directed for ER and his two-parter for CSI don't count either. His guest directed scene for Sin City doesn't count either nor does his written/directed short that is part of the Four Rooms four short film anthology. His experimental unofficial first film, My Best Friend's Birthday, has been long lost to time and went unfinished so that also doesn't count. That covers everything.

 

 

I believe Tarantino is far more open to working in TV today than he used to be, but I believe he did those episodes of ER and CSI because he said he was a fan of the shows when each was airing. It seemed at one point he might make a DiCaprio as Rick Dalton TV series, but I don't think that will materialize now, but he seemed open to it if DiCaprio would ever do it. He did also release The Hateful Eight: Extended Edition on Netflix, which was a four-episode miniseries version of the theatrical release which feels like him dipping his toes into TV waters. Just as a side note, it will be leaving Netflix on April 24th.

Both versions or just the series?

[Greatoneshere]

4 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

Both versions or just the series?

 

Both versions unfortunately. 

[TwinIon]

12 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

I really think he should approach a Streaming service and do a Ten episode Magnum Opus. He writes scripts like novels andyway and aways has to edit himself down. I'd be curious to see what Tarantino's work would look like if runtime wasn't a consideration. Outside of that, he's been hit or miss for me with his last couple of films.

Maybe he'll make 10 movies and then decide to move on to TV.

 

It would probably take him a decade to write a full series, but I'd watch it.

[SoberChef]

How Quentin Tarantino’s ‘The Movie Critic’ Fell Apart

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Inside the messy, late-hour collapse of the director’s mysterious final feature amid wild script and casting rumors (Tom Cruise?) and a fully on-board Sony Pictures.

 

[Jason]

On 4/18/2024 at 8:23 AM, Greatoneshere said:

Tarantino pretty much hates Natural Born Killers since Oliver Stone changed his screenplay so much, so that's never counted for anything.

 

Easy to have a flawless record if you just say the duds don't count.

[Greatoneshere]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Easy to have a flawless record if you just say the duds don't count.

 

To be fair, Quentin Tarantino's screenplay for the film is out there and it is pretty different and I'm sure if he directed it, it would have been directed significantly different. Though I like Stone's version of Natural Born Killers, so not sure I'd call it a dud. It's certainly divisive though. Critics were certainly offended by parts of the movie when it came out, but looking at the audience score on RT and the IMDb score, time has been kind to the film.

[johnny]

kill bill is definitely two movies idc what he fuckin thinks

[Greatoneshere]

2 hours ago, johnny said:

kill bill is definitely two movies idc what he fuckin thinks

 

The existence of this would seem to disagree with you:

 

Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair (2006) - IMDb

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4h 7m | Not Rated

 

[ort]

6 hours ago, johnny said:

kill bill is definitely two movies idc what he fuckin thinks

 

If it's one movie he owes me a refund for the second ticket I had to buy.

[johnny]

7 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

The existence of this would seem to disagree with you:

 

Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair (2006) - IMDb

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4h 7m | Not Rated

 

nope 

[Greatoneshere]

8 hours ago, johnny said:

nope 

 

I'm not sure what that means. Just flat out denying something that exists?  

[ort]

If anything that should count as a whole other movie, so he's now up to 11.

[Kamusha]

If you only watch Kill Bill as two movies then of course you’re gonna view it as two movies lol. But they work much better back to back. I don’t know anyone who has watched both back to back and said they felt like two separate movies.

[Greatoneshere]

2 hours ago, ort said:

If anything that should count as a whole other movie, so he's now up to 11.

 

But it's the movie he originally wanted to make. It was horrific producer Harvey Weinstein who pushed him to split it into two films. So he finally restores his original vision and you want to say he's made a new movie (for a total of three Kill Bills) rather than cutting two movies back down to one? Does that mean since there are three versions of The Hateful Eight that he's made 13 movies then?  

 

2 hours ago, Kamusha said:

If you only watch Kill Bill as two movies then of course you’re gonna view it as two movies lol. But they work much better back to back. I don’t know anyone who has watched both back to back and said they felt like two separate movies.

 

Same - it's an enormous epic and is clearly meant to be watched as one. I can't imagine how much minds would have been blown had the 4-hour single film version been released into theaters (or something close to it). So much happens in those two movies it would have been crazy.

[TheLeon]

I would love for the One True Kill Bill to be readily available to see by legit means. That’s when I’ll consider it a proper film. 

[Kamusha]

1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said:

Same - it's an enormous epic and is clearly meant to be watched as one. I can't imagine how much minds would have been blown had the 4-hour single film version been released into theaters (or something close to it). So much happens in those two movies it would have been crazy.

 

I think about this hypothetical a lot. It certainly would have changed the conversation around Kill Bill and how its viewed. But also I fail to see a four hour movie having the kind of success that Tarantino needed at the time. He hadn't released a movie in 6 years and while it has since be reevaluated Jackie Brown was seen as somehwhat of a disappointment after Pulp Fiction so he really needed to bounce back.

 

24 minutes ago, TheLeon said:

I would love for the One True Kill Bill to be readily available to see by legit means. That’s when I’ll consider it a proper film. 

 

He's screened The Whole Bloody Affair at his Beverley Cinema theater a couple times if that counts.

[Greatoneshere]

1 hour ago, Kamusha said:

I think about this hypothetical a lot. It certainly would have changed the conversation around Kill Bill and how its viewed. But also I fail to see a four hour movie having the kind of success that Tarantino needed at the time. He hadn't released a movie in 6 years and while it has since be reevaluated Jackie Brown was seen as somehwhat of a disappointment after Pulp Fiction so he really needed to bounce back.

 

He's screened The Whole Bloody Affair at his Beverley Cinema theater a couple times if that counts.

 

I agree, at the time there's no way a 4-hour Tarantino film would be released in theaters, and successfully? Probably not. Especially coming off of Jackie Brown, as you said (and I am glad Jackie Brown has gotten a reassessment since, it's very good). Still, would have been awesome to see. 

 

I also believe the Whole Bloody Affair screened once in Philadelphia too, as well as other places. The point is, it exists, and indicates Tarantino considers this to be one film in two parts. 

 

Small side note: the House of Blue Leaves scene that is in black and white in the West in Vol. 1 has its colors restored, as Tarantino prefers, on the Japanese DVD for Vol. 1 (though it was clever to use the eye being ripped out to switch to black and white for the scene). That's something else I'd like to see rectified if The Whole Bloody Affair released on bluray or 4K. There is a fan edit I believe that fixes that scene and combines the two movies to essentially create The Whole Bloody Affair, but it'd be nice to get an official release.

[TheLeon]

2 hours ago, Kamusha said:

He's screened The Whole Bloody Affair at his Beverley Cinema theater a couple times if that counts.

If he wants to fly me out to LA the next time he screens it, then yes, I would consider that “readily available“.

[johnny]

i’ve watched two movies back to back many times. like the first kill bill and then the second. two good movies 

[Kamusha]

Anyone who thinks it’s two movies is siding with Harvey Weinstein.

[johnny]

two 2️⃣ 

[SuperSpreader]

Two movies, one movie, 10 movies, who gives af

[best3444]

5 hours ago, SuperSpreader said:

Two movies, one movie, 10 movies, who gives af

 

Seriously. 

[Nokra]

12 hours ago, SuperSpreader said:

Two movies, one movie, 10 movies, who gives af

 

Two movies, one movie, 0b10 movies, who gives af.

 

 

[SuperSpreader]

 

I don't know what that means.

 

 

 

[Moa]

Never judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree or Tarantino by his ability to count.

[Nokra]

3 hours ago, SuperSpreader said:

 

I don't know what that means.

 

 

 

 

I'm indeed just being a dork.

0b10

is the binary representation of the number 2 in Python. You said 10, I see 0b10.