SaysWho? Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Quote Several large companies, including Ticketmaster parent Live Nation, are vowing to end surprise "junk fees" following a pressure campaign from the Biden administration. "Junk fees" are extra costs tacked on at the end of purchases, often for concert tickets, resorts and rentals. President Joe Biden has made ending the practice a priority and invited representatives from Live Nation, Airbnb, SeatGeek and others to meet with him Thursday Both Live Nation and SeatGeek agreed in advance of the meeting to commit to show all fees up front for ticket purchases, the White House said. Iowa venue xBk is expected to as well. Airbnb in December began including all fees in the final price after calls from the White House to do so. "Today's voluntary actions demonstrate that companies both big and small recognize the importance of providing consumers with honest, up-front all-in pricing, rather than tricking them with surprise fees at the end of checkout," the White House said in a statement. "It is also just a first step towards addressing junk fees in the economy." "This is a win for consumers in my view, and proof that our crackdown on junk fees had real momentum," Biden said Thursday following the meeting, adding that there is more to do. Ticketmaster parent Live Nation, others agree to show 'junk fees' after Biden pressure WWW.CNBC.COM Live Nation and SeatGeek agreed in advance of a meeting with President Biden to commit to show all fees up front for ticket purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Biden securing the concert goer demographic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Event ticket prices are absolutely batshit insane these days. Performers like Taylor Swift and Beyonce get a lot of attention because they're so expensive, but I bought my wife 4 tickets to see Le Tigre this summer and it was almost $250, 30% of which is fucking fees for digital tickets. It's criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I’ve started going to more local sports events, and I appreciate that Seat Geek has an “include fees” option when browsing tickets. I’ll pay $22 to see a Reds game, but I bristle every time I see a $12 ticket and then get $10 in fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Ticket prices in general are insane. For pretty much everything... concerts, comedy shows, sporting events, theme parks, museums, movies... everything... I feel like the prices of tickets has gone up faster and much more aggressively than most other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Dark Brandon showing Ticketmaster who's boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, ort said: Ticket prices in general are insane. For pretty much everything... concerts, comedy shows, sporting events, theme parks, museums, movies... everything... I feel like the prices of tickets has gone up faster and much more aggressively than most other things. Definitely. With concerts it used to be exciting to get tickets for your favorite musician. Price really wasn't an issue. Now you're fighting ticket resellers like crazy and all the bullshit fees. Soured any love I had for concerts. You also could not keep me out of the movie theater in my teens and early twenties. Last week my family of 4 went to the theater. 4 tickets, 3 drinks, large popcorn, and 1 bag of candy was $85. It's not affordable. We had "fun" but not $85 fun. Theaters for us are now a once or twice a year deal. Younger days I would see 3 movies per month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: Definitely. With concerts it used to be exciting to get tickets for your favorite musician. Price really wasn't an issue. Now you're fighting ticket resellers like crazy and all the bullshit fees. Soured any love I had for concerts. You also could not keep me out of the movie theater in my teens and early twenties. Last week my family of 4 went to the theater. 4 tickets, 3 drinks, large popcorn, and 1 bag of candy was $85. It's not affordable. We had "fun" but not $85 fun. Theaters for us are now a once or twice a year deal. Younger days I would see 3 movies per month. I have some clothes with deep pockets, so I save a lot by bringing my own snacks and drinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: Definitely. With concerts it used to be exciting to get tickets for your favorite musician. Price really wasn't an issue. Now you're fighting ticket resellers like crazy and all the bullshit fees. Soured any love I had for concerts. You also could not keep me out of the movie theater in my teens and early twenties. Last week my family of 4 went to the theater. 4 tickets, 3 drinks, large popcorn, and 1 bag of candy was $85. It's not affordable. We had "fun" but not $85 fun. Theaters for us are now a once or twice a year deal. Younger days I would see 3 movies per month. @sblfilms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nokra said: @sblfilms It is the thing I tell people at industry events all the time, if anything will kill movie going it is US going crazy on pricing. My indoor theater is actually relatively inexpensive. $6 for all ages 3+, and you can get 2 large drinks and a large popcorn for $14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Yeah, paying $32 just for two tickets to see Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 a couple weeks ago seems kinda ridiculous. I just prefer to wait for most movies to come to streaming nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 16, 2023 Author Share Posted June 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It is the thing I tell people at industry events all the time, if anything will kill movie going it is US going crazy on pricing. My indoor theater is actually relatively inexpensive. $6 for all ages 3+, and you can get 2 large drinks and a large popcorn for $14. Is this part of your online advertising budget you sneaky sumbitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 hours ago, ort said: Ticket prices in general are insane. For pretty much everything... concerts, comedy shows, sporting events, theme parks, museums, movies... everything... I feel like the prices of tickets has gone up faster and much more aggressively than most other things. Tickets to see even mid tier comedians at hit point are fucking ludicrous. And if it's a headliner, fucking forget about it. It was $80 to get tickets in the balcony to see John Mulaney in Boston before fees, so $100+ face value, they got snatched instantly, and the secondary market had them at $250+. It's bananas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: they got snatched instantly because Ticketmaster scalps their own tickets 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Tickets to see even mid tier comedians at hit point are fucking ludicrous. And if it's a headliner, fucking forget about it. It was $80 to get tickets in the balcony to see John Mulaney in Boston before fees, so $100+ face value, they got snatched instantly, and the secondary market had them at $250+. It's bananas. Yup, same here in Portland when I saw John Mulaney. I think tickets were about $150 each after all of the fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Jason said: because Ticketmaster scalps their own tickets Even if they're not directly doing it themselves, they have no incentive to do anything about it. Bots pay "convenience fees" just like everyone else, then the ticket gets re-listed on their own platform, from which they take another cut again. Then factor in that Ticketmaster either has an exclusive deal with or straight up owns like 80% of show venues in the US and Canada, so there's no way around them. They can make the price whatever they want. Artists can't do anything about it (if they even want to), fans can't do anything about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Even if they're not directly doing it themselves, they have no incentive to do anything about it. Bots pay "convenience fees" just like everyone else, then the ticket gets re-listed on their own platform, from which they take another cut again. Then factor in that Ticketmaster either has an exclusive deal with or straight up owns like 80% of show venues in the US and Canada, so there's no way around them. They can make the price whatever they want. Artists can't do anything about it (if they even want to), fans can't do anything about it. Can't artists do something about it? Genuinely asking. I recall someone limiting the sales of their concerts or stand-up shows to just through their website (unfortunately, the example of Louis C.K. comes to mind as I recall) which is one way to circumvent this? You might limit your audience, your ticket sales, or available venues, but artists can do something about it can they? They're incentivized not to, of course, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, Greatoneshere said: Can't artists do something about it? Genuinely asking. I recall someone limiting the sales of their concerts or stand-up shows to just through their website (unfortunately, the example of Louis C.K. comes to mind as I recall) which is one way to circumvent this? You might limit your audience, your ticket sales, or available venues, but artists can do something about it can they? They're incentivized not to, of course, but still. It's probably doable for someone like Louis C.K., but most average touring artists/comics can't afford to just voluntarily blacklist themselves from Ticketmaster/LiveNation venues. LiveNation also has a management division called SME that's a pretty massive player in the entertainment industry. So there are a lot of artists that are also managed by LiveNation. The company has become so massive that they are unavoidable pretty much every step of the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Newsom signs bill banning ‘junk fees’ in California KTLA.COM Hidden fees, which sellers use to mislead customers with an artificially low headline price before imposing additional unavoidable charges later in the buying process, will no longer be allowed in … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Newsom signs bill banning ‘junk fees’ in California KTLA.COM Hidden fees, which sellers use to mislead customers with an artificially low headline price before imposing additional unavoidable charges later in the buying process, will no longer be allowed in … Good luck enforcing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: Good luck enforcing that. Pretty easy, I think. Advertised ticket price just has to be the final price (before taxes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: Good luck enforcing that. I feel like Ticketmaster doesn’t really need to hide their shitty ticket prices anymore. Even with inflation and everyone complaining about ticket prices, they all seem to sell out no problem. It’s a needed change for sure though. This is also desperately needed for things like Airbnb. I’ve seen hosts try to charge insane fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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