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1 minute ago, best3444 said:

Well my pawns are offline because my connection is just God awful.

 

Will they still help?

Not sure. I never use official pawns if I don't have to.

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BEWARE! BEWARE! BEWARE!

 

 
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Dragon’s Dogma 2’s pawn plague is wreaking havoc in the game

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Know the warning signs of a Dragonsplague infection

 

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Dragon's Dogma 2's Dragonsplague Pawn affliction can wipe out an entire town

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Dragon’s Dogma 2 Players Are Freaking Out Over This Mysterious Contagion

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Dragonsplague can lead to ‘devastating calamity’ if you don’t deal with it sooner rather than later

 

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Dragon's Dogma 2 Players Are Getting Destroyed By Dragonsplague

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Dragonsplague is a lot worse than we all thought, and it's ruining entire save files.

 

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Dragon's Dogma 2 Players Are Freaking Out Over a Mysterious Plague That Turns Pawns Murderous - IGN

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Has your Dragon's Dogma 2 Pawn been suffering from headaches lately? Do they seem more confused than usual? Going on murderous rampages and killing off entire cities' worth of NPCs? If so, your Pawn might have an actual in-game disease known as Dragonsplague, and the only way to get rid of it might be to drown them.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

BEWARE! BEWARE! BEWARE!

 

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I only read like the first headline in case of story spoilers. Is this a bug or an intended game mechanic?

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Well @Mr.Vic20 Roge certainly got his fill of sights on the way home. I found him at night so I fought everything from trolls to zombie. I hope he's not too traumatized. :p

 

After that was over I decided to go back to the capital but then got sidetracked as one does. A griffin attacked me but I kicked his ass enough to fly off. Then I found myself at the ancient battleground where I saw a dragon battling a cyclops. Some guy said he wanted me to escort him to the cenotaph, I accepted but then was a bit nervous when he wanted to go in the direction of where I saw the dragon :s

 

Now I'm in some big cave filled with ghosts!

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57 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

It's an intended mechanic i think. my pawns have been warning about this plague since I started the game.


ok yeah, they won’t record dialog for a bug. Unless the dialog was meant more as flavor and world building and then a bug came along that like catching Missing No. would fuck up your game like a rampant AI. 

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8 hours ago, Xbob42 said:

Max 30 cap will be huge for consoles, provided it's a good framerate limiter and doesn't allow frametimes to go wild. The entire reason it's so herky-jerky all the time is that the frametimes are all over the place, which gives a really constant "start-stop-start-stop" feeling to the entire game when in towns, and less so the further away from towns you are.

 

Weird to say for one of the objectively worse performing games I've played in years, but it actually runs really well when away from towns. Just these beautiful locales, dense, foggy forests with gorgeous lighting, multiple enemies fighting and tons of spell effects and it doesn't miss a beat. But it's like an inverse square law, where the performance cost decreases exponentially when far away from NPCs, and of course increases exponentially as you draw closer.

 

I really hope they pin down and minimize the issue(s), I assume they're simply keeping track of far more information than is relevant to the player that could probably be simplified. To expand upon my earlier baseless conjecture: performance like this makes me think they're doing shit like cloth physics and animation calculations (like inverse kinematics) when characters not only aren't on-screen, but not even within a radius where that would be even potentially useful, like when you turn the camera to look at a city from a mile away. When in reality they could probably just track "x,y,z position, daily schedule" and whatever other absolute minimum tracking needs to be done. The CPU usage is insane right now.

 

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As you can see, while the average FPS is fine, the 1% and 0.1% lows are absurdly low. When your FPS is fluctuating between 86 and 30 (and everywhere inbetween) every frame, it's gonna feel bad. But it also goes much, much lower. A 7800X3D is enough CPU horsepower to bend the Series X and PS5 over and rearrange their guts, but still gets roughly the same lows as those versions. (As you can see, despite the wide range of CPUs, the variance is not as wide as you'd expect. And this is at a low resolution on a 4090, so no GPU getting in the way.)

 

They've got their work cut out for them, and man I hope they do it.

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The frame pacing has to be terrible for those 1% lows.  There has to be something fundamentally broken with their code for that to happen.

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I played 5 hours today. Level 19 now. Some of these quests are difficult because they give you very little detail. Then they tell you to speak to the villagers so get clues and I did that but still no answers. It's not me just poor design. 

 

I traveled all the way out to western Battahl but couldn't get through the main gate because I don't have a permit. They don't tell you how to obtain a permit either. :|

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3 minutes ago, Biggie said:

When should I hire new Pawns? Do you always keep the Pawn you created and started with?

 

Your main pawn will be with you for the entire game. Hire new pawns once you level. I always have hired pawns that are a level or two ahead of me. 

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24 minutes ago, best3444 said:

I played 5 hours today. Level 19 now. Some of these quests are difficult because they give you very little detail. Then they tell you to speak to the villagers so get clues and I did that but still no answers. It's not me just poor design. 

 

I traveled all the way out to western Battahl but couldn't get through the main gate because I don't have a permit. They don't tell you how to obtain a permit either. :|

Dang I’m only Level 9

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16 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

No rush. This game is not easy either. 

You’re telling me? They don’t hold your hand at all. Most of the time I am just wondering and exploring. And if I happen to run into a quest I can easily do I am happy lol. 

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You’re telling me? They don’t hold your hand at all. Most of the time I am just wondering and exploring. And if I happen to run apom a quest I can easily do I am happy lol. 

 

Well like my post said they don't tell you enough information. So now I'm looking at a walkthrough lol. I love adventuring though and just discovering shit. I like how it's risky to travel far etc. 

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1 hour ago, best3444 said:

I traveled all the way out to western Battahl but couldn't get through the main gate because I don't have a permit. They don't tell you how to obtain a permit either

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When you rest in the inn in the main town, when you wake up there's a note near your bed that basically tells you how to get pass this checkpoint. Something about getting a Bestren mask and they will let you through.

 

It's not like most modern RPG"s you have to read stuff and pay attention to what the game is telling you in order to progress. A lot of hired Pawns will take you through quests if they've done them before as well.

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5 hours ago, Mercury33 said:
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This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.  "This footage was filmed at 30 FPS" yeah bro on a camera recording real life, I ain't controlling your dumb ass! Also the absolute worst thread to use this video, since the game is often in the 20s. With massively bad frame pacing. But this excitable child probably wouldn't even know what that means and why it would actually look like his "expectation" example.

 

2 hours ago, best3444 said:

I played 5 hours today. Level 19 now. Some of these quests are difficult because they give you very little detail. Then they tell you to speak to the villagers so get clues and I did that but still no answers. It's not me just poor design. 

 

I traveled all the way out to western Battahl but couldn't get through the main gate because I don't have a permit. They don't tell you how to obtain a permit either. :|

Just put on a beastren mask. You're told several times that they just let beastren walk in.

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When you rest in the inn in the main town, when you wake up there's a note near your bed that basically tells you how to get pass this checkpoint. Something about getting a Bestren mask and they will let you through.

 

It's not like most modern RPG"s you have to read stuff and pay attention to what the game is telling you in order to progress. A lot of hired Pawns will take you through quests if they've done them before as well.

 

Well I know there is a quest for this check point. But all I have to do is put on that mask at the shop?

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Last night I fought some 

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Big ass monster. Not sure what it was but when it fell and died it cleared a bunch of rocks and water flowed so I could keep moving forward. 

Pretty cool. Love my move set so far using the Thief. 

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Last night I fought some 

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Big ass monster. Not sure what it was but when it fell and died it cleared a bunch of rocks and water flowed so I could keep moving forward. 

Pretty cool. Love my move set so far using the Thief. 

 

Its the monster near the dam. You could have broken the dam to have the water knock his ass down. It's sweet. 

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9 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

Its the monster near the dam. You could have broken the dam to have the water knock his ass down. It's sweet. 

Oh didn’t know that. Well I enjoyed all of us attacking the shit out of him. You might want to spoiler tag your quote. 

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44 minutes ago, Biggie said:

Oh didn’t know that. Well I enjoyed all of us attacking the shit out of him. You might want to spoiler tag your quote. 

 

It was in multiple videos released a while back. 

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I got through that one cave, fought my first golem and then found the Sphinx. I put down a waypoint so I could come back to her. Then I did mostly quests around the town and got that free house. I'm going back to the checkpoint town for that Jadite Orb quest now.

 

Oh yeah and fighting that golem, I climbed up to the head and it does like an explosion thing that sent me flying off but my pawn was underneath and caught me. Nice!

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The castle in vernworth is really impressive with no loading anywhere. 

 

I mean there's no loading anywhere in general. :p

 

In the first game if you went to a town you'd load in to the town, then go into the castle was another load.

 

This one you just walk in from outside into the city, then go into the castle. And now beasts can get in. Randomly some trolls were in the middle of the town fighting!

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I mean there's no loading anywhere in general. :p

 

In the first game if you went to a town you'd load in to the town, then go into the castle was another load.

 

This one you just walk in from outside into the city, then go into the castle. And now beasts can get in. Randomly some trolls were in the middle of the town fighting!

 

I just realized when you push start you can tell the time by looking at the background. It shows a sun for daylight and stars for night and it rotates. 

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Such a dumb, misleading video. Movies are typically filmed at 24fps, but nobody would argue we should go back to N64 frame rates. Also you're not controlling it, nor does have poor frame pacing that resembles hitching and stutters. If a movie was stuttering unintentionally people would complain. Also if a game isnt a steady 30fps, which DD2 isnt even relatively small dips in frame. Dropping 6fps from 30 feels much more noticeable than dropping 6fps from 90, because at 30fps that’s a sudden loss of 20%. 
 

But in general 30 fps just isnt as smooth. I haven’t played with it, but I also wonder if consoles and lower end PCs being stuck with Interlaced rendering just to get to 30fps. That’s some real 6th gen console stuff right there when some had to settle for 1080i as the highest console resolution with 720p better for fast motion. Kind of seems like cheating when they are also using checkerboarding. 

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6 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

I just realized when you push start you can tell the time by looking at the background. It shows a sun for daylight and stars for night and it rotates. 

Very helpful. I hate being out exploring and it gets dark as fuck and I have no idea where I’m at. I guess pressing start on the Series X will do it to?

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Such a dumb, misleading video. Movies are typically filmed at 24fps, but nobody would argue we should go back to N64 frame rates. Also you're not controlling it, nor does have poor frame pacing that resembles hitching and stutters. If a movie was stuttering unintentionally people would complain. Also if a game isnt a steady 30fps, which DD2 isnt even relatively small dips in frame. Dropping 6fps from 30 feels much more noticeable than dropping 6fps from 90, because at 30fps that’s a sudden loss of 20%. 
 

But in general 30 fps just isnt as smooth. I haven’t played with it, but I also wonder if consoles and lower end PCs being stuck with Interlaced rendering just to get to 30fps. That’s some real 6th gen console stuff right there when some had to settle for 1080i as the highest console resolution with 720p better for fast motion. Kind of seems like cheating when they are also using checkerboarding. 

Calm down. It’s a joke. For master race you sure are dense. 
 

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