Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Greatoneshere said: Hey guys maybe we should end the filibuster? No? We need more evidence? Okay. It's more important that Sinema keep getting to view herself as a QUIRKY MAVERICK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, Jason said: It's more important that Sinema keep getting to view herself as a QUIRKY MAVERICK. Hitler was a quirky maverick once upon a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Joe said: Right now they are. Sen. Joe Manchin on ending the filibuster: 'Jesus Christ, what don't you understand about 'never'?' WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM The filibuster means that 60 votes are needed to pass most legislation in the Senate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Sen. Joe Manchin on ending the filibuster: 'Jesus Christ, what don't you understand about 'never'?' WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM The filibuster means that 60 votes are needed to pass most legislation in the Senate. Politician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Joe said: Politician Pelosi did the same thing with impeachment. Twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 I'm telling you people, the filibuster isn't going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 this woman is disconnected from reality and history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I'm telling you people, the filibuster isn't going anywhere Maybe, but Manchin's quotes aren't dispositive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 It truly is a shame the guy who shot him didn't have better aim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pikachu Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 What's the plan to convince Manchin and Sinema to nuke it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Pikachu said: What's the plan to convince Manchin and Sinema to nuke it? Heaven only knows. Maybe the AFL-CIO position might be enough for Senate Majority Co-Leader Manchin? Bur Senator Sailor Moon Sinema? No clue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pikachu said: What's the plan to convince Manchin and Sinema to nuke it? Manchin seems much more invested in the infrastructure bill. Either the GOP will budge on it, or we'll probably see movement on filibuster reform with bringing back the speaking filibuster and 40 votes to stop rather than 60 to move standard that Manchin has already opened the door on considering. It may not be the blank check some want, but the former makes it harder for the GOP to block 70% or more popular bills when they have to stand up there non-stop and actually speak against them. While the latter just makes it harder logistically for the GOP to block something indefinitely. The more I look into it, the more I am optimistic that there will be some movement on it(or the GOP will make the calculation to budge so they can give Manchin an excuse to not do it). The whole reason Obama's stimulus was watered down was because Blue Dogs refused to use reconciliation at the time. It doesn't get enough recognition that getting Manchin signed on to this bill through reconciliation was a victory in itself. Also, Manchin moved on the lower court appointment filibuster in 2013. They waited too long, and in some ways the Dems got the worst of both worlds because of it, but it also seems like Dems may have learned a lesson from it. Believe me, I will join in the calls for his head if we are 6 months done the road with no other bill passed and no movement on the filibuster, but I think there is middle ground between that, and a complete elimination on it for everything. That said, I have to say, some people have been unrealistic with Manchin and the filibuster, I think. If you are Manchin, and inclined to keep the filibuster, why on earth would you be talking about nuking it after just the first bill they've done, and Dems got the vast majority of they wanted anyway. And they stuff they didn't get was stuff Manchin didn't want anyway. Wait until a bill Manchin wants to pass is being stonewalled before judging his true intentions. Politically speaking even if, in his heart of hearts, he had decided to nuke the filibuster from the very second Warnock and Ossoff won he would probably still be doing what he's doing. It gives him the room to say, "I said again and again I wanted to keep the filibuster, but Republicans forced my hand when they wouldn't give an inch". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, Pikachu said: What's the plan to convince Manchin and Sinema to nuke it? Klobbering them with binders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: It gives him the room to say, "I said again and again I wanted to keep the filibuster, but Republicans forced my hand when they wouldn't give an inch". The frustrating part is, I'm pretty sure he's the only person who gives a shit about that, I seriously doubt his voters actually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Not sure if this belongs here, but wow! Schumer ain't fucking around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Looks like the "standing filibuster" is going to become a thing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe said: Not sure if this belongs here, but wow! Schumer ain't fucking around. Ok so I am basically having a conversation with myself here, but it's cool. A few days ago, AOC mentioned this "Easter Egg" in the COVID bill. I thought it was interesting, but nothing more than that. Well looks like the cat is out of the bag: They're not fucking around this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Joe said: Ok so I am basically having a conversation with myself here, but it's cool. A few days ago, AOC mentioned this "Easter Egg" in the COVID bill. I thought it was interesting, but nothing more than that. Well looks like the cat is out of the bag: They're not fucking around this time. Now we just need them to actually do something with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Joe said: Ok so I am basically having a conversation with myself here, but it's cool. A few days ago, AOC mentioned this "Easter Egg" in the COVID bill. I thought it was interesting, but nothing more than that. Well looks like the cat is out of the bag: They're not fucking around this time. Chuck Schumer finally waking up with these lit tweets. Big dick Schumer energy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I guess Chuck finally had enough of the quips about Senate Majority Leader Manchin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Joe said: Looks like the "standing filibuster" is going to become a thing: If by "going back to the founding fathers" he means "it was first implemented 60 years after the founding of the country, after every single one of the founding fathers were dead, and basically ensured the Civil War by giving the minority party a bigger voice than they already had," then yes. he's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Alright, Mitch - let's have at it then! Top Senate Republican issues stark warning as Democrats take aim at filibuster | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday warned Democrats that ending a long-standing Senate procedure that can block partisan legislation would bring President Joe Biden's agenda to a standstill and lead to retribution in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Alright, Mitch - let's have at it then! Top Senate Republican issues stark warning as Democrats take aim at filibuster | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday warned Democrats that ending a long-standing Senate procedure that can block partisan legislation would bring President Joe Biden's agenda to a standstill and lead to retribution in... Pretty clear sign to just fucking do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Quote McConnell also warned that Democrats would face a starkly conservative agenda on labor, energy, abortion rights, border security and gun ownership in 2022, if Republicans took back the majority with the filibuster no longer in place. “We wouldn’t just erase every liberal change that hurt the country. We’d strengthen America with all kinds of conservative policies with zero – zero - input from the other side,” he said. lol like Cocaine Mitch was going to give Democrats input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 WTF Is Wrong With Kyrsten Sinema? WWW.THEDAILYBEAST.COM She says she’s a Democrat. So why is she handing the keys to power to Mitch McConnell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 The GOP didn't get rid of it last time around simply because they didn't have the votes, likely because more than a handful knew they'd be voting on crazy shit like repealing SS or something idiotic coming out of the house, lol. They were eager to toss it to ram through some SCOTUS nominations though, but they couldn't even do ACA repeal when they had 53 senate seats through reconciliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Alright, Mitch - let's have at it then! Top Senate Republican issues stark warning as Democrats take aim at filibuster | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday warned Democrats that ending a long-standing Senate procedure that can block partisan legislation would bring President Joe Biden's agenda to a standstill and lead to retribution in... Mitch - "elections will have consequences if you get rid of the filibuster" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uaarkson Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 How did Chuck just grow a brain all of a sudden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 8:52 PM, Joe said: Looks like the "standing filibuster" is going to become a thing: The Senate has spoken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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