SaysWho? Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: For a significant amount of people (and I include myself in this group) the idea of Trump winning was absurd. I remember, prior to the election, somebody getting in a Twitter argument with Silver saying that Clinton had a 99.9% chance of winning. It wasn't the polls that made people think Trump only had a 0.1% chance of winning. The polls said he probably wouldn't win and people combined that with their absolute revulsion with Trump to conclude there was no way he could win. Then in hindsight, no one wanted to label themselves as being wrong so they'd rather say "well the polls misled me." It's impossible to prove but I bet that polls wouldn't have gotten nearly as bad a rap if Romney had won in 2012 as they did when Trump won, even though as I recall in 2012 the polls were predicting an Obama win with far greater certainty. People would've seen Romney win and shrugged saying "well pollsters said he had a 10% chance of winning" (or whatever the odds were) because a Romney victory wouldn't have been as much of a mind breaking thing as a Trump victory was. Many don't want to admit that they weren't paying attention to the polls; I agree. And Nate was even making that point to that guy from HuffPo Polls. They had an argument because what HuffPo was showing was not backed up by polling: I feel like some of us were feeling anxious the week prior to the election when everyday was a lead story about Hillary's emails. The polls were clearly tightening quickly. I remember SlipperySlope even saying at one point, "I'm not ready for a Trump presidency ," probably because he was reading the numbers, too. The one thing I will say is that the states that had bigger errors (and they happened in 08 and 12 as well) were some key swing states like Wisconsin instead of states people weren't paying attention to. Nationally, they were excellent, and plenty of states were well within the margin of error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: NPR calls Minnesota for Biden Oh wow - that one genuinely surprises me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: In my case, that's literally unconstitutional. Well now I'm curious as to who you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: Many don't want to admit that they weren't paying attention to the polls; I agree. And Nate was even making that point to that guy from HuffPo Polls. They had an argument because what HuffPo was showing was not backed up by polling: I feel like some of us were feeling anxious the week prior to the election when everyday was a lead story about Hillary's emails. The polls were clearly tightening quickly. I remember SlipperySlope even saying at one point, "I'm not ready for a Trump presidency ," probably because he was reading the numbers, too. The one thing I will say is that the states that had bigger errors (and they happened in 08 and 12 as well) were some key swing states like Wisconsin instead of states people weren't paying attention to. Nationally, they were excellent, and plenty of states were well within the margin of error. Wait, SlipperySlope/2user1cup has been here that long? Who the fuck is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: Many don't want to admit that they weren't paying attention to the polls; I agree. And Nate was even making that point to that guy from HuffPo Polls. They had an argument because what HuffPo was showing was not backed up by polling: I feel like some of us were feeling anxious the week prior to the election when everyday was a lead story about Hillary's emails. The polls were clearly tightening quickly. I remember SlipperySlope even saying at one point, "I'm not ready for a Trump presidency ," probably because he was reading the numbers, too. The one thing I will say is that the states that had bigger errors (and they happened in 08 and 12 as well) were some key swing states like Wisconsin instead of states people weren't paying attention to. Nationally, they were excellent, and plenty of states were well within the margin of error. Wait, SlipperySlope/2user1cup has been here that long? Who the fuck is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Brick said: Well now I'm curious as to who you want. Me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jose said: Wait, SlipperySlope/2user1cup has been here that long? Who the fuck is he? I'm slippery when wet, don't turn me on you'll break a hip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Wikiunit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, Jose said: Wikiunit? Call me Papá SlipnSlope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Me. Lol I should have known 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 It's getting wild in here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/03/us/elections/results-texas-house-district-28-primary-election.html @thewhyteboar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Well there's a big contrast between the candidates after these speeches already. Joe Biden doesn't even know who's his wife or his sister. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Bloomberg won American Samoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Well there's a big contrast between the candidates after these speeches already. Joe Biden doesn't even know who's his wife or his sister. For context Our standard bearer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 LET DAIRY DIE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Well there's a big contrast between the candidates after these speeches already. Joe Biden doesn't even know who's his wife or his sister. 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Two sundowning candidates for a sundowning empire. How apt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: LET DAIRY DIE! What was that about? Where those animal rights activists or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Brick said: Well now I'm curious as to who you want. 35 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Me. I thought for sure it would be Mel Lastman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I thought for sure it would be Mel Lastman. I do kinda like Mel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Not a Democrat but This also means Doug Jones is officially toast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Thank you for your service @GeneticBlueprint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Thank you for your service @GeneticBlueprint Was literally about to post this and say "You're Welcome, America." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: He right tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SlipperySlope said: He right tho He absolutely is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 All he had to do was turn around and look at the women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Christ, the Imbecile is going to chew the Sundowner up and spit him out if they're ever on the "debate" stage together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Watching those two brain dissolving old farts debate each other would be popcorn worthy. More enjoyable though would be seeing Warren debate Trump and eviscerate him like she did Bloomberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brick said: More enjoyable though would be seeing Warren debate Trump and eviscerate him like she did Bloomberg. That would absolutely not happen. She could do that to Bloomberg because he's got the personality and presence of a wet paper towel. The Imbecile would steamroll her hard -- not on actual issues -- but on his sheer bluster alone. All he'd have to say is "Pocahontas" and that would throw her off totally. You don't "debate" him on issues - you have to literally wallow in the muck and grime with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: That would absolutely not happen. The Imbecile would steamroll her hard -- not on actual issues -- but on his sheer bluster alone. All he'd have to say is "Pocahontas" and that would throw her off totally. You don't "debate" him on issues - you have to literally wallow in the muck and grime with him. You think Bernie would be able to do that? I've never seen him play that game. Biden can... if he can remember his name that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: That would absolutely not happen. The Imbecile would steamroll her hard -- not on actual issues -- but on his sheer bluster alone. All he'd have to say is "Pocahontas" and that would throw her off totally. You don't "debate" him on issues - you have to literally wallow in the muck and grime with him. Biden just needs to trick Trump into going first in a push up contest. Throw a dollar or two on the floor and watch Trump chase after it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: That would absolutely not happen. She could do that to Bloomberg because he's got the personality and presence of a wet paper towel. The Imbecile would steamroll her hard -- not on actual issues -- but on his sheer bluster alone. All he'd have to say is "Pocahontas" and that would throw her off totally. You don't "debate" him on issues - you have to literally wallow in the muck and grime with him. And the people will fucking eat it up. Biden can at least stand up to Trump on a match of nonsensical bravado, the shit that gets people elected today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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