SaysWho? Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 All the shit you guys said in the election thread. 9 hours ago, Jason said: 9 hours ago, Jason said: @b_m_b_m_b_m this ALMOST makes up for all the other shitty decisions they made about handing out speaking slots 9 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Kasich always looks like he needs a haircut. 8 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Elena is going to talk next 8 hours ago, SlipperySlope said: Elena nose lighting 8 hours ago, Uaarkson said: Only way I would watch the DNC is with a blood alcohol level of at least 0.4 8 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Michelle Obama though. 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: 4.0 8 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I watch it just for Michelle. 8 hours ago, Jason said: And you can catch the same material again next week too. 8 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Can Melania go on this long though? 8 hours ago, SlipperySlope said: I... don't like Michelle 8 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: 5 hours ago, Jason said: 5 hours ago, Jason said: 4 hours ago, Jason said: 3 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Reminds me of some of the posters on this board 3 hours ago, Chairslinger said: This seems unlikely. With Trump's obsession with dominance I think he'll stick with the guy who has been more emasculated. 20 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Should we have a convention thread? Headlines and repetition matter. "Joe's just fine," might not sound like an inspiring message but I think it's the right judo defense to target the soft fascists and maybe even if they don't vote trump they just stay home. This, combined with Michelle's speech, I think they're hitting the right tone. It's hard for trump (specifically trump) to argue against a message that says he tried but gosh it's just too much for him. It might sound limp wristed but I think de-mythologizing trump for his followers is the play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Thanks, I'm lazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Bankers afraid of socialists? Shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 You're too late, it already happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 Is Fox Business even reliable? Lou Dobbs is on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 Also, I'm curious if the convention being virtual affects polling after the convention. Long-term, I don't know if it matters much -- Hillary had a surge in 2016, Obama had a surge in 2012 but it became closer nationally, McCain surged above Obama in 2008, plus Trump's is after and the second convention usually produces a bump to counter the first -- but still curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 When does AOC get her 1 minute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: When does AOC get her 1 minute? Tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Is Fox Business even reliable? Lou Dobbs is on that. Fox News is worse than Fox itself as it doesn't even have a news desk, its just corporate shills all around. That applies for all of the "Business news" channels, they're all shitlords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyser_Soze Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Go balloons! Go confetti! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jason said: 18 minutes ago, Jason said: 🤮 I don't see an issue with either, and this isn't the first time Powell endorsed the Democrat. In fact, his statement in 2008 of, "Obama isn't a Muslim, but the real answer should be, so what if he were?" is way ahead of where much of America still is and ahead of some of the "Bernie should have won" people who used to post here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Who the devil are these mythical beings on the right who are going to be swayed by Colin Powell? There are probably like a dozen of them, and they all alraedy work for the Lincoln Project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Colin fucking Powell endorsing Biden. Well NOW I’ve been convinced! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: Who the devil are these mythical beings on the right who are going to be swayed by Colin Powell? Right-leaning or moderate independents who aren't sold on Biden. And I'd assume his word carried weight in 2008 as well when he first switched parties in endorsements. We literally had people who supported Bernie, who's nearly universally loved here, who aren't as progressive on Muslim acceptance as Powell. And I feel as if I'm in Bizarro world -- the guy in that tweet is saying, "Why are we forgiving Powell?!" as if he hasn't endorsed the Democrat since 2008. Did he just start paying attention to this stuff yesterday? Isn't it well-founded knowledge that he had deep reservations about the whole thing but was made many assurances that it would pay off and felt backstabbed? He's not Bill Kristol. Some here really, really need to get out of their bubbles. I know these moderate Republicans that incels like RSF think don't exist; voting for a Democrat is extremely hard when you've not done that in your lifetime. People on this board don't live in the real world; they live in the left-wing Twitter-sphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Powell is responsible for more dead Muslims than have ever been discriminated against in this country We're the 04 RNC but cool with gay and trans folks love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Powell is responsible for more dead Muslims than have ever been discriminated against in this country We're the 04 RNC but cool with gay and trans folks love it 04 RNC is not much different than 16/20 GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Half of the 04 cast is here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Half of the 04 cast is here Not really. 04 was a hugely "patriotic" affair, where those who questioned the president blamed America and questioning government was questioning country. Giuliani went from supporting a war hawk to supporting Trump pretending not to be; the actual war is window dressing for the jingoistic message which can be used to back any policy. The 1988 campaign was very similar to 04 which is very similar to today's Republican Party. This isn't 04 RNC; it's a Democratic convention with progressives, mainstream Democrats, and Republicans unified behind Biden. Maybe there's a message there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 The message is the party would be in 3 or 4 parts in another country that wasn't fundamentally broken, and can only come together in the face of a goddamn fascist, and even then it's tenuous at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The message is the party would be in 3 or 4 parts in another country that wasn't fundamentally broken. Yeah, except our dreams of a parliamentary system aren't happening. We have two parties that need to establish broad coalitions. FDR's coalition would have been multiple parties in another country and he won four terms with it. The message is people of all ideological stripes support him. The jingoistic 04 Republican convention cannot be found here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I thought Republicans don't support talking dirty in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Those 2 Army members IN UNIFORM need to be swiftly punished by their commanding officer. It is never OK to participate in political activities in uniform. FFS. EVERYONE RECEIVES TRAINING ON THIS SHIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Those 2 Army members IN UNIFORM need to be swiftly punished by their commanding officer. It is never OK to participate in political activities in uniform. FFS. EVERYONE RECEIVES TRAINING ON THIS SHIT Nothing matters lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Those 2 Army members IN UNIFORM need to be swiftly punished by their commanding officer. It is never OK to participate in political activities in uniform. FFS. EVERYONE RECEIVES TRAINING ON THIS SHIT Don't worry, Trump will find out who they are and have them disciplined. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 There is a bit of a difference though. If the president is giving a speech on military readiness or something like that, it is appropriate for service personnel to be in uniform. If he is there as part of a "Elect Donald Trump" campaign event, that's not ok. Those two young people were blatantly taking part in a political event by being in that delegate video. https://www.army.mil/article/71574/rules_restrict_political_activity_by_dod_personnel# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: There is a bit of a difference though. If the president is giving a speech on military readiness or something like that, it is appropriate for service personnel to be in uniform. If he is there as part of a "Elect Donald Trump" campaign event, that's not ok. Those two young people were blatantly taking part in a political event by being in that delegate video. https://www.army.mil/article/71574/rules_restrict_political_activity_by_dod_personnel# Nothing matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: There is a bit of a difference though. If the president is giving a speech on military readiness or something like that, it is appropriate for service personnel to be in uniform. If he is there as part of a "Elect Donald Trump" campaign event, that's not ok. Those two young people were blatantly taking part in a political event by being in that delegate video. https://www.army.mil/article/71574/rules_restrict_political_activity_by_dod_personnel# Yeah, the CiC coming to speak to his soldiers is far different than soldiers showing up in uniform at a campaign rally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: There is a bit of a difference though. If the president is giving a speech on military readiness or something like that, it is appropriate for service personnel to be in uniform. If he is there as part of a "Elect Donald Trump" campaign event, that's not ok. Trump turns every single public speaking event into a Trump campaign rally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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