CitizenVectron Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/21/facebook-plaintext-passwords/ Just burn it down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 People getting paid a quarter of a million dollars plus to make a goddamn rookie mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: People getting paid a quarter of a million dollars plus to make a goddamn rookie mistake One theory as to why mistakes like this are happening in some companies is that the issue is related to ageism in hiring. I'm not 100% convinced on this theory, but there are certain best practices that are ingrained over years of work, and some tech companies (especially Facebook) are known for being open in hiring young people over old people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Shut it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 At this point I'm embarrassed to even have a FB account, though I very rarely log in. There's just not much more this company can do at this point to prove that they're poor stewards of your information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, TwinIon said: At this point I'm embarrassed to even have a FB account, though I very rarely log in. There's just not much more this company can do at this point to prove that they're poor stewards of your information. Unfortunately I need one for my business as Facebook is still a prime place to get wedding photography clients (like, comment, subscribe!), but if I could drop it completely I would. I don't use my personal account anymore, and wish I could delete it (required for business account). I use instagram primarily (even though it's owned by Facebook), though even that is not used that often anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If you want or need to be relevant on social media, you need to be very plugged into Facebook, as well as Instagram, Youtube, and Twitter. Twitch as well, if you are at all trying to reach that kind of audience. I try to be somewhat relevant on these platforms, so I do keep them active, but I'm not some huge Facebook fan or something. But social media does good as well as it does evil and so it will always exist so rather than wishing it away or saying "I personally don't use it" we need to make the conversation more constructive and see how we can make these corporations accountable and in what ways since social media will always "be a thing" going forward. In fact, as more countries' wifi and internet bandwiths and strengths and accessibility increase across the globe, we'll be seeing more, not less, social media as more people "plug in". Elizabeth Warren seems at least interested in having that conversation of accountability. Because shit like this is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: If you want or need to be relevant on social media, you need to be very plugged into Facebook, as well as Instagram, Youtube, and Twitter. Twitch as well, if you are at all trying to reach that kind of audience. I try to be somewhat relevant on these platforms, so I do keep them active, but I'm not some huge Facebook fan or something. But social media does good as well as it does evil and so it will always exist so rather than wishing it away or saying "I personally don't use it" we need to make the conversation more constructive and see how we can make these corporations accountable and in what ways since social media will always "be a thing" going forward. In fact, as more countries' wifi and internet bandwiths and strengths and accessibility increase across the globe, we'll be seeing more, not less, social media as more people "plug in". Elizabeth Warren seems at least interested in having that conversation of accountability. Because shit like this is unacceptable. I don't hate social media as a whole. I overuse Twitter, though it's mostly as a new aggregator, I don't really engage much. I partially stopped using Facebook because I didn't enjoy the product, but I stay away from Facebook and Instagram and WhatsApp because I don't like the company. I agree that social media is likely a permanent part of the landscape of the web, but there's no particular reason that Facebook needs to own all of it, and I don't want to be a party to their dominance. I liked Warren's proposal to break up Facebook because I want to see real competition in the space again. I could likely be suckered into another social network if there was one that felt better about using. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Fb isn’t the only tech company who does this. It’s more a question of who has access for most places but at least for fb they also tracks everything so they would also know if someone peaked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, chakoo said: Fb isn’t the only tech company who does this. It’s more a question of who has access for most places but at least for fb they also tracks everything so they would also know if someone peaked. Pretty sure this isn't common (on purpose, at least). It's not hard to salt/hash the passwords to be more secure. In my workplace, we manage passwords for around 11,000 users, and there is no way for anyone to see the naked password. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hey @Jasondoes d1p keep passwords as text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Hey @Jasondoes d1p keep passwords as text? I'm pretty sure when we restored accounts after the server implosion that we had the hashes. I think the latest IBP software wouldn't even give us those (so forced password resets for everyone I guess). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 D1P more secure than facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Whelp, it was about time to change my password there anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I really don't know why i still have a facebook account, when i do use it i usually just end up reading an article from places I follow on twitter anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Shit like this makes me reconsider whether I should even get a Quest. Facebook is the worst tech company by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Hey @Jasondoes d1p keep passwords as text? Nope - they're hashed/salted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Nokra said: Whelp, it was about time to change my password there anyway. You probably should have done this several months ago when they revealed they had exposed everyone's password or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 hours ago, legend said: Shit like this makes me reconsider whether I should even get a Quest. Facebook is the worst tech company by a lot. Quests usually give lots of experience depending on the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 17 hours ago, TwinIon said: I don't hate social media as a whole. I overuse Twitter, though it's mostly as a new aggregator, I don't really engage much. I partially stopped using Facebook because I didn't enjoy the product, but I stay away from Facebook and Instagram and WhatsApp because I don't like the company. I agree that social media is likely a permanent part of the landscape of the web, but there's no particular reason that Facebook needs to own all of it, and I don't want to be a party to their dominance. I liked Warren's proposal to break up Facebook because I want to see real competition in the space again. I could likely be suckered into another social network if there was one that felt better about using. I'm with you there though WhatsApp and Instagram are pretty great products in some ways. And to be clear, my post was not directly aimed at yours about not using Facebook. I wish there was more competition in the space than just Facebook, but for now people who want or need to use social media have to use Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitter, and Twitch. I think corporate accountability needs to be pushed more and more (as I know you are also a proponent of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0101 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Deleted my Facebook in December. Don't miss it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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