Zero-calorie sweetener linked to heart attack and stroke, study finds

[thedarkstark]

uhhh I've been having anywhere between 3-10 stevia packets nearly every day for 10+ years

 

I put 2-3 packs in every cup of coffee or tea, and I drink a lot of both.

[thedarkstark]

5 hours ago, outsida said:

This is so true. HFCS = Brown sugar = Honey in terms of negative health effects but people keep believing the myth that there is a healthy sugar. 

This isn't entirely true. Everything makes a difference even things as simple as how you cook your food. A raw sweet potato has a low glycemic load (how quickly it's bio-available and enters the blood stream spiking insulin) a cooked sweet potato has a far higher glycemic load and baking it increases that even further than boiling or microwaving it. Part of the reason fiber is important in our diet isn't just to keep bowel movements regular, it also helps slow the breakdown of food and thus lowering glycemic load. 

 

Like most things, how much this stuff actually matters can vary greatly from person to person

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

16 hours ago, stepee said:

Please put in disclaimers that coke zero is fine on these articles because finding out that coke zero is no longer okay to drink is what would most likely give me the heart attack 

 

16 hours ago, stepee said:

 

it’s so good

Coke Zero? sure, maybe. This “Cole Zero Sugar” they’ve been selling for years, hell no. They ruined that recipe. 

[GoldenTongue]

7 hours ago, thedarkstark said:

This isn't entirely true. Everything makes a difference even things as simple as how you cook your food. A raw sweet potato has a low glycemic load (how quickly it's bio-available and enters the blood stream spiking insulin) a cooked sweet potato has a far higher glycemic load and baking it increases that even further than boiling or microwaving it. Part of the reason fiber is important in our diet isn't just to keep bowel movements regular, it also helps slow the breakdown of food and thus lowering glycemic load. 

 

Like most things, how much this stuff actually matters can vary greatly from person to person

I'm not really sure what your point is.

 

I don't see a meaningful analogy between sucrose/HFCS, and the glycemic loading you describe.  Does the manner of cooking (along with subsequent cooling) change the glycemic load of a starch?  Yes.  But that (relativistic) effect is common for all, even if there are acute differences in glycemic response from one person to the next.

 

The initial point that I posted, is that, contrary to what any number of media sources have reported, HFCS is not some nutritional bogeyman to be avoided in favor of a "healthier" alternative like surcrose.  That is a claim perpetuated by (I can only assume) SI who oppose the increasing market share of HFCS, and in fact, based upon current available evidence, there isn't any data to support the notion that HFCS has a greater effect on obesity, diabetes, etc., than sucrose.

 

Is it possible that HFCS is better (or worse) for some individuals because of some semi-unique allergy or physiological condition?  Of course...but that isn't a legitimate basis for an extrapolated claim of one being better than another because of "health reasons" which are actually limited to a marginal portion of the population.

[stepee]

I don’t know guys I’m drinking a coke zero right now and it’s great 

[Spork3245]

1 minute ago, stepee said:

I don’t know guys I’m drinking a coke zero right now and it’s great 

 

If it's not Cherry Coke Zero, you're missing out.

[stepee]

Just now, Spork3245 said:

 

If it's not Cherry Coke Zero, you're missing out.

 

Look. I know. I fucking know. They never have it in the groceries close to me and Costco especially never has it

[Spork3245]

Just now, stepee said:

 

Look. I know. I fucking know. They never have it in the groceries close to me and Costco especially never has it

 

This is sad.

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

My sister abandoned Coke Zero sugar after they changed the taste. They now get Dr Pepper Zero, which is far superior. 

[Bacon]

stop drinking coke zero and it's variants

[CayceG]

The only sugar I consume outside of food products is a half a teaspoon of refined white sugar in each of my two cups of coffee per day. And sometimes I put honey in my hot tea.

 

I do not use added sweeteners otherwise. I haven't had sodas of any kind in years. 

[Fizzzzle]

The older I get, the more I think I don't want to live past 65 or so, anyway. I'm already halfway there, let's just not worry about my body.

[Massdriver]

I have around 3 sodas a year, usually Diet Pepsi. I used to drink RC cola when I was in college 15 years ago. 

[thedarkstark]

3 hours ago, Bacon said:

stop drinking coke zero and it's variants

I dont take advice from right wing nutjobs

[Bacon]

1 minute ago, thedarkstark said:

I dont take advice from right wing nutjobs

Man, for a second I thought you were talking about me lol.

[Spork3245]

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[MarSolo]

I don’t drink soda. I’m an adult.

 

Unless I go to the movies then it’s Cherry Vanilla Coke with popcorn, or I’m having a cocktail and it’s rum going into a splash of coke.

[brucoe]

I use to drink tons and tons of diet Dr Pepper. A year ago, I stopped cold turkey and now have diet A&W Root Beer once a day, if that.

[Mr.Vic20]

I drink roughly 2 pots of coffee every day, I'll see you suckers on the other side! 

[ort]

I've moved on to sparkling waters to get my carbonated beverage fix. I probably drink about 5-6 a day.

 

I used to drink that many full sugar sodas back in my teens / early 20s. At some point I switched to diet sodas and then I pretty much gave up all soda for about a 15 years only to recently develop a taste for sparkling water which I currently drink like crazy.

[thewhyteboar]

11 hours ago, MarSolo said:

I don’t drink soda. I’m an adult.

 

Unless I go to the movies then it’s Cherry Vanilla Coke with popcorn, or I’m having a cocktail and it’s rum going into a splash of coke.

Thank you! People actually drink mixer without booze?? 

[mclumber1]

Sounds like people are misinterpreting the study after watching this video.