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Francis to host consistory in August then visit Perdonanza Celestiniana festival, initiated by pope who resigned

 

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Rumours swirling since early May that Pope Francis might retire have been fuelled by an announcement that he will be attending a feast initiated by a 13th-century pope who himself resigned.

 

Speculation that the 85-year-old might follow in the footsteps of his predecessor Benedict XVI and step down from his post was prompted in early May when he appeared in public using a wheelchair for the first time, after undergoing a minor operation to treat knee pain.

 

It gained momentum when he made the unusual decision to host a consistory on 27 August to create new cardinals, some of whom will be eligible to elect the pontiff’s successor at the next conclave.

 

The next day, Francis will travel to L’Aquila, the Abruzzo town ravaged by an earthquake in 2009, for the Perdonanza Celestiniana festival, during which he will visit the cathedral that hosts of the tomb of Celestine V, a hermit pope who resigned in 1294 after just five months in the job. Benedict also visited the tomb in 2009, leaving behind his pallium stole in what some commentators at the time said was a symbolic gesture ahead of his own resignation, which came in 2013.

 

“It’s very odd to have a consistory in August, there’s no reason that he needs to call this [event] three months in advance and then go to L’Aquila in the middle of it,” said Robert Mickens, the Rome-based editor of the English-language edition of La Croix, a Catholic daily newspaper.

 

 

Having three "official" living popes would be quite unprecedented!

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59 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

It's not exactly like Francis I was a "liberal" by any stretch of the imagination when it came to social issues. 

 

He just had a far better PR department than his predecessor.

 

Oh absolutely! But I bet they will give up on pretending to be moderate. 

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12 minutes ago, Jason said:

fuckers won't appoint a jew :angry:

 

I so need this to happen. There is a not insignificant number of evangelicals that believe a Jewish Pope is a major sign of the end times. This would certainly give them something to chew on other than gay and reproductive rights.

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4 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

I so need this to happen. There is a not insignificant number of evangelicals that believe a Jewish Pope is a major sign of the end times. This would certainly give them something to chew on other than gay and reproductive rights.

 

Wait seriously? :lol:

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Wait seriously? :lol:

 

Abso-fucking-lutely. I grew up around these people. They're the group that took the words of huckster televangelists like Jack Van Impe as gospel.

 

If you care about the weeds, it's the group of evangelicals that believe the Antichrist will be a Pope. Also, because certain readings of the book of Revelations dictates that the Jewish population in Israel believe the antichrist to be the Messiah. Well, how do you compensate for that seeming contradiction? A Jewish Pope, of course. This also means you need to have Jewish state in the land of ancient Israel for there to be a Jewish population there to be tricked by the antichrist. That's why evangelicals care so much about the Jewish state of Israel.

 

Just understand that these people vote and have, for years now, helped shape foreign policy in regards to Israel.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

Wait seriously? :lol:

 

This is all part of the reason that evangelicals support Israel so much. When their ostebsibly all powerful and all knowing and all present god comes to earth, if he enters "the rapture" into his holy iPhone and the GPS cannot find a place called "Israel" then the second coming cannot happen.

 

Or more seriously, what @Ghost_MH said.

 

There are a lot of Christians that don't "know" this but also believe that support for Israel is crucially important. They're just not aware they've been psyop'd as to the actual reason.

 

It helps explain why there are so many simultaneously "pro-Israel / anti-'globalist'" people on the right wing. The goal posts are barely wider than the ball, but by god they're going to kick the absolute shit out of that thing while trying to make the field goal.

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34 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

This is all part of the reason that evangelicals support Israel so much. When their ostebsibly all powerful and all knowing and all present god comes to earth, if he enters "the rapture" into his holy iPhone and the GPS cannot find a place called "Israel" then the second coming cannot happen.

 

Or more seriously, what @Ghost_MH said.

 

There are a lot of Christians that don't "know" this but also believe that support for Israel is crucially important. They're just not aware they've been psyop'd as to the actual reason.

 

It helps explain why there are so many simultaneously "pro-Israel / anti-'globalist'" people on the right wing. The goal posts are barely wider than the ball, but by god they're going to kick the absolute shit out of that thing while trying to make the field goal.

 

Oh yeah, many of the day to day evangelicals don't know any of this, but they all attend churches run by pastors who came out of the 80s and 90s reading books like Jack Van Impe's Revelations Revealed or Pat Robertson's New World Order. These books seeded Satanic cabal conspiracies and created a generation of evangelicals far more susceptible to obvious Internet troll bullshit like Q.

 

Either way, the core belief here is a support for Israel as it's needed for end time prophecies, but only so far as the Jewish people need to be the helpful mark that is tricked by the antichrist for having rejected Jesus the first time around. There's a lot of antisemitism built into all this from the very start.

 

It's all wild, but it like for reals explains much of seemingly contradictory stances racist evangelicals seem to hold.

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3 hours ago, Zaku3 said:

 

Those heretics hate the Catholic Church so I can see where that idea comes from.

 

I really need to do an EU4 campaign as the Papel States and pwn the Reformation.

The real pro gamer move was in Medieval Total War 2: send a high skilled assassin to chill around Rome. Start a war against your fellow Catholics and take a couple of cities. After the pope excommunicates you for waging war against Catholics, assassinate the dick. Boom. New pope, no more excommunication.

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28 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said:

The real pro gamer move was in Medieval Total War 2: send a high skilled assassin to chill around Rome. Start a war against your fellow Catholics and take a couple of cities. After the pope excommunicates you for waging war against Catholics, assassinate the dick. Boom. New pope, no more excommunication.

 

In the biz we call this "getting Boniface VII'd"

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