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Update: Macron's center-right alliance ties with left-wing alliance in first round of French legislative elections


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Even if Macron wins, after Trump and Hillary it's hard not to see even elections like this as a type of pyrrhic victory.

 

Because it seems like even if people are making the right choice now they are doing it grudgingly because most seem to agree Macron is a blah choice, but blah is better the Nazi Lite, or whatever.

 

And after enough elections where you vote like that, you wind up with Trump/Hillary. Where people are tired of making the "right" decision just because the alternative is horrible and they just want to throw a live grenade into the whole system.

 

 

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I mean, I can understand the angle that it's notable that the Overton window has shifted so much that a person like Le Pen even got that close.

 

However, it seems like the time for that has long past. Trump won, the world is already mad, and Le Pen actually didn't better her previous performance, right? So even that type of hand wringing doesn't fit here.

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4 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

I mean, I can understand the angle that it's notable that the Overton window has shifted so much that a person like Le Pen even got that close.

 

However, it seems like the time for that has long past. Trump won, the world is already mad, and Le Pen actually didn't better her previous performance, right? So even that type of hand wringing doesn't fit here.

 

It was in fact a tighter margin than last time. I've seen it suggested it's because of the incumbency disadvantage French presidents face though, the last time an incumbent got reelected was 2002.

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1 hour ago, Chairslinger said:

I mean, I can understand the angle that it's notable that the Overton window has shifted so much that a person like Le Pen even got that close.

 

However, it seems like the time for that has long past. Trump won, the world is already mad, and Le Pen actually didn't better her previous performance, right? So even that type of hand wringing doesn't fit here.

 

It seems less that and most dissatisfaction with Macron and Le Pen massively sanitizing her party to appear sensible.

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1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

It is very funny that le pen won a department that is 97% Muslim though (because of illegal immigration though)

 

Germans and French trying to tell off Americans for our racist immigration system is always a good wholesome lol.

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LePen absolutely crushed Macron in the French overseas departments which are "majority minority":

 

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Analysis: Far-right candidate finished far ahead of Emmanuel Macron in Guadeloupe, Martinique and Réunion

 

It's worth nothing that the left-wing candidate Melenchon won those departments in the first round.

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12 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

It is very funny that le pen won a department that is 97% Muslim though (because of illegal immigration though)

 

That's an overseas department, not one located within France itself.


The majority population of Mayotte is GENUINELY African-Muslim and not simply due to illegal immigration from the Comoros Islands.

 

These articles explain further why LePen's message resonated there specifically:

 

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The voters of Mayotte, located between Madagascar and Mozambique, have concerns about immigration that appear to trump the candidate's scepticism of Islam

 

 

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French far-right leader Marine Le Pen registered her highest score in the first round of the 2022 presidential election in the overseas French department of Mayotte, an Indian Ocean archipelago locat…

 

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3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

That's an overseas department, not one located within France itself.


The majority population of Mayotte is GENUINELY African-Muslim and not simply due to illegal immigration from the Comoros Islands.

 

This article explains further why LePen's message resonated there specifically:

 

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French far-right leader Marine Le Pen registered her highest score in the first round of the 2022 presidential election in the overseas French department of Mayotte, an Indian Ocean archipelago locat…

 

It’s interesting to also note that as poor as it is, it’s still much wealthier than neighboring areas making it a ripe target for illegal immigration

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17 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

France's elections for the National Assembly are in June and it's widely-expected that's where the French Left will be making a serious push to capture enough of the chamber to blunt Macron's power when it comes to domestic policy.

 

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Jean Castex’s decision to resign allows president to choose new team amid a changed political landscape

 

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Mélenchon, who narrowly missed beating Le Pen in the first round of the presidential election, has called for voters to make him prime minister via the legislative elections on 12 and 19 June. Members of Mélenchon’s party, La France Insoumise (LFI), have been holding “negotiations” with their counterparts at the Ecology-Green and the Communist parties with a view to joining forces in constituencies where a leftwing alliance could win enough seats to give them control of Assemblée Nationale, the lower house.

 

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Every time I think of Le Pen/Macron, I think of that former member here who was a racist and far-right who said he was looking forward in 2017 to another far-right victory with Le Pen, putting it on his "top shelf."

 

Hope he didn't get too excited this time around.

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In the first round of the legislative elections, Macron's center-right alliance (Ensemble) and a left-wing alliance (NUPES) effectively tied:

 

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As for the second round, this is what a ResetERA poster said:

 

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Ensemble and NUPES are basically neck and neck, each getting around 26% of the vote and having around 400 candidates qualified for the 2nd round. Both are unlikely to get a clear majority (289 seats), which is a huge defeat for Macron. Marine Le Pen's RN party is mathematically unable to form a majority, so its electors are ironically kingmakers in this new duel.

 

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