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SuperSpreader Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 At least it's over and done with. They can stop pretending they can get anything done. Just start the campaigning against the GOP in closeish races now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Why do I get the feeling Biden is gonna end up resigning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe said: Listen I'll tell you when we're ready for positivity and it's not now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The message the bill sends is more important than the bill itself for the midterms. It failing may kill the little chance we had of keeping the senate let alone expanding the majority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Uhhhhhhhhh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Joe said: After a near-coupe and impending fascism this actually isn't encouraging at all. All of that should have motivated every Dem and "sane" GOPer to kill the filibuster to expand voting rights. Expected, but ultimately a disappointment still. There should be no faith in the current Democratic leadership going forward. Maybe even the mainstream of the entire party too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: After a near-coupe and impending fascism this actually isn't encouraging at all. All of that should have motivated every Dem and "sane" GOPer to kill the filibuster to expand voting rights. Expected, but ultimately a disappointment still. There should be no faith in the current Democratic leadership going forward. Maybe even the mainstream of the entire party too. Why is Democratic leadership to blame for Manchin and Sinema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, Joe said: Why is Democratic leadership to blame for Manchin and Sinema? "Say Joe, that's a real nice coal mining company you've got there, sure would be a damn shame if anything happened to it." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Jason said: "Say Joe, that's a real nice coal mining company you've got there, sure would be a damn shame if anything happened to it." So then you lose him for judge confirmations too? Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Jason said: "Say Joe, that's a real nice coal mining company you've got there, sure would be a damn shame if anything happened to it." I say this above on occasion when frustrated but you can bet that should Biden do that he would be impeached and removed because democrats are dupes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe said: Why is Democratic leadership to blame for Manchin and Sinema? Because they were unable to whip their caucus into line for possibly the most important piece of legislation in a decade. They were ineffective at messaging its importance to the public. They were unable to apply pressure. They're useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 There was never going to be anything to change manchins mind it is on leadership for not understanding that and making it perfectly clear months ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Can’t be an FDR or LBJ sized president without their sized majorities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: There was never going to be anything to change manchins mind it is on leadership for not understanding that and making it perfectly clear months ago This is a fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I really wish he was just conventionally corrupt. Could have just handed him a giant sack of money in like August and it would have more than paid for all the time that's been wasted these past few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: After a near-coupe and impending fascism this actually isn't encouraging at all. All of that should have motivated every Dem and "sane" GOPer to kill the filibuster to expand voting rights. Expected, but ultimately a disappointment still. There should be no faith in the current Democratic leadership going forward. Maybe even the mainstream of the entire party too. Old school GOP senators and SCOTUS members and ex-leaders and all that are probably against the coming fascist takeover of the US, in principle. But...they will go along with it since it's their team. It's really as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Old school GOP senators and SCOTUS members and ex-leaders and all that are probably against the coming fascist takeover of the US, in principle. But...they will go along with it since it's their team. It's really as simple as that. Yup. And they just did today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 56 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: They’re more likely to get re-elected this way, so there’s that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 One last thing but if the plan was “put it on the floor and dare them to vote against it” (as they kept telling you over and over again that they would vote against it) that makes you a complete idiot if you thought that they would move on this. it was readily apparent months ago to anyone with ears that listen and eyes that read that this was going to happen. this whole leadership is just as dumb as manchin and Sinema but at least their heart appears to be in the right place and wanted to do the right thing. Those two have room temp iq (if the heat was out in late January in Quebec) and there’s no excuse for them. going back to the senate being a judicial confirmation factory as that’s all they can really do anymore (because it only requires a majority to do so!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Schumer fucking sucks. He's Dak Prescott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: I wonder why he deleted that tweet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 feels good to have a gop majority again after one year 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: They’re more likely to get re-elected this way, so there’s that. Sinema ain’t getting re-elected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joe said: Sinema ain’t getting re-elected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Mark Kelly polls significantly better than her in Arizona. The only group she polls better with is Arizona Republicans, i.e. people who are never actually going to vote for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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