Reputator Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Comet said: Last night as I’m falling asleep: huh, that’s amusing and a cute attempt by Pringles this morning after catching up: okay so what are the falling pieces needed for Putin to be overthrown now I think the only hope for Wagner even making a dent is if a significant amount of Putin's security force defect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I wont link to it because of the board's policies, but there is a pretty good Twitter "Spaces" (audio stream) going on right now that has several people reading and analyzing all of the news as it breaks. For instance, Wagner forces have been spotted in the outskirts of Moscow as of 545 PM Moscow time. It's honestly better than the coverage I've seen on CNN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I wont link to it because of the board's policies, but there is a pretty good Twitter "Spaces" (audio stream) going on right now that has several people reading and analyzing all of the news as it breaks. For instance, Wagner forces have been spotted in the outskirts of Moscow as of 545 PM Moscow time. It's honestly better than the coverage I've seen on CNN. They're not on the "outskirts of Moscow" - they may be within the borders of the Moscow Oblast which covers a huge area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: They're not on the "outskirts of Moscow" - they may be within the borders of the Moscow Oblast which covers a huge area. Yeah, they are in Moscow Oblast, about 200km from the city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 At some point someone is going to give an order to not let them any further and someone is going to start shooting right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I really didn't notice any unusual delivery activity in Arlington last night while I was out having dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 It's gonna be just fantastic having dueling Russian capital cities: a Prigozhin Moscow vs a Putin Petrograd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 If anything, the memes over the last 24 hours on non-credible defense have been chef's kiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Moscow's mayor is telling people not to work on Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 The plane shot down over Voronezh appears to have been a L-22M mobile command post. Russia only has a few of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 "We are trying to fight for you, master Putin, I swear! It's just this damned traffic!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 The roads leading to Moscow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Moscow's mayor is telling people not to work on Monday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The roads leading to Moscow Defense in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 Both the jets that Putin uses have flown to St. Petersburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 Could be fud/Russian panic posting: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 If this gets any worse I wonder what concessions the US could get out of Putin with an assurance that Wagner would never be allowed to take control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer.tv Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 This was the mid-season twist that no one saw coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Prigozhin is... declaring an end to this? Quote "They were going to dismantle PMC Wagner. We came out on 23 June to the March of Justice. In a day, we walked to nearly 200km away from Moscow. In this time, we did not spill a single drop of blood of our fighters. Now, the moment has come when blood may spill. That’s why, understanding the responsibility for spilling Russian blood on one of the sides, we are turning back our convoys and going back to field camps according to the plan." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Mercenary chief's forces advance toward Moscow as Putin vows harsh punishment for rebellion leaders | AP News APNEWS.COM President Vladimir Putin is vowing to punish the organizers of an armed rebellion after mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin led his troops out of Ukraine and into a key city in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Can you... uncross the Rubicon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Can Russia do anything right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Who doesn't love a bit of brinksmenship to address overdue contract grievances in the middle of a war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 NOELREPORTS 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 Quote “Prigozhin was offered to give up the idea of going to Moscow, and in response was offered the security of Wagner. They also promised to resolve the issue of Shoigu and Gerasimov,” Russian media report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Can you... uncross the Rubicon? This is a absolutely akin to Caesar getting within sight of the walls of Rome and saying, "Nah - I'm good." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I guess this is what happens when you stop picking up the phone when the boss of your private army keeps calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: This is an absolutely akin to Caesar getting within sight of the walls of Rome and saying, "Nah - I'm good." Super promise land reforms and farms for your veterans if you stand down! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Once in a lifetime chance for this guy and he’s like “nah, I’d rather turn around and have to look over my shoulder for the remaining month of my life.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Surely people deep within Putin's inner circle know that Putin's guarantees are worth fuckall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I'm not an expert in statecraft or anything, but I don't understand how you can let a PMC guy publicly fire your defense minister (if that's actually what the deal is?) and still claim that you're in charge of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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