Microsoft Xbox Series X | S OT - Power Your Dreams, update: FTC case unredacted documents leaked, including XSX mid-generation refresh, new gyro/haptic-enabled controller, and next-generation plans for 2028

[rc0101]

1 hour ago, TomCat said:

 

1.5 gets rounded down in my book

Madness

[TomCat]

3 minutes ago, rc0101 said:

Madness

nope is the glass half empty or half full   its half empty in my book

[rc0101]

36 minutes ago, TomCat said:

nope is the glass half empty or half full   its half empty in my book

[TomCat]

[Keyser_Soze]

51 minutes ago, TomCat said:

nope is the glass half empty or half full   its half empty in my book

 

But in your case the glass is empty if it's originally half empty.

[crispy4000]

We only know that the glass is partly filled and was garnished.  But let’s call it half empty because Microsoft isn’t serving it.

[JPDunks4]

6 hours ago, crispy4000 said:

We only know that the glass is partly filled and was garnished.  But let’s call it half empty because Microsoft isn’t serving it.

That's cause Microsoft's is overflowing! 

[Duderino]

13 hours ago, TomCat said:

primitive shaders have been confirmed for the ps5

Indeed, the point is both consoles will have means for accelerated geo culling and other uses of a more unified shader architecture.

[Spork3245]

10 hours ago, TomCat said:

nope is the glass half empty or half full   its half empty in my book

.5 being rounded up is more-or-less universal.

[JPDunks4]

 

MS Buying WB games confirmed.

[TomCat]

thats a damn game sale

[JPDunks4]

1 minute ago, TomCat said:

thats a damn game sale

Conveniently they highlight all the big WB Studio Games, 2 days before their Showcase...

[TomCat]

Just now, JPDunks4 said:

Conveniently they highlight all the big WB Studio Games, 2 days before their Showcase...

if they get WB its going to be Glorious

[TomCat]

so velocity architecture gives xbox 96GBs  of I/O throughput   and  the  Ps5  max is 22GBs according to cerny.  Looks like that xtra fast SSD on the ps5 is not fast enough

[JPDunks4]

https://www.altchar.com/game-news/forza-motorsport-8-details-leak-120-fps-rally-racing-cinematic-storyline-and-more-auP2I7z2bNeG

 

Forza MS 8 potential leak...

[Keyser_Soze]

Whoa! No one  would have thought they were going to make another Forza!

[crispy4000]

14 hours ago, TomCat said:

so velocity architecture gives xbox 96GBs  of I/O throughput   and  the  Ps5  max is 22GBs according to cerny.  Looks like that xtra fast SSD on the ps5 is not fast enough

 

You must not be referring to the SSD, because:
 

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The foundation of the Xbox Velocity Architecture is our custom, 1TB NVME SSD, delivering 2.4 GB/s of raw I/O throughput, more than 40x the throughput of Xbox One. 

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/07/14/a-closer-look-at-xbox-velocity-architecture/

Cerny: 

 

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[SoberChef]

What I love about what M$ did ahead of this event is set/lower expectations by stating its only an hour and will be nothing but games. That way, they can either deliver exactly on that premise alone with the close out being "Tune in August ... for our final launch reveal spectacular." or they could totally blow the proverbial roof off and announce a date, the price, acquisitions, Lockhart, etc.

 

I'm pumped to watch & see what gets shown off in and of itself, but the undercurrent of mysterious "what ifs" is pretty awesome as well!

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

15 hours ago, SoberChef said:

What I love about what M$ did ahead of this event is set/lower expectations by stating its only an hour and will be nothing but games. That way, they can either deliver exactly on that premise alone with the close out being "Tune in August ... for our final launch reveal spectacular." or they could totally blow the proverbial roof off and announce a date, the price, acquisitions, Lockhart, etc.

 

I'm pumped to watch & see what gets shown off in and of itself, but the undercurrent of mysterious "what ifs" is pretty awesome as well!

Yep. I’m swimming in days off right now, so I decided to use some PTO tomorrow so I can sleep in and watch the MS show live. I’m looking forward to it. 
 

come on Fable announcement 

[number305]

18 hours ago, JPDunks4 said:

https://www.altchar.com/game-news/forza-motorsport-8-details-leak-120-fps-rally-racing-cinematic-storyline-and-more-auP2I7z2bNeG

 

Forza MS 8 potential leak...

That kinda got me pumped.  I hope they also put some time into the last horizon game so that at launch they have some added visuals for series X.

[JPDunks4]

1 minute ago, number305 said:

That kinda got me pumped.  I hope they also put some time into the last horizon game so that at launch they have some added visuals for series X.

I think they will be updating a lot of their biggest 1st party titles to have some nice upgrades on Series X.

[Brian]

Fable baby!

Microsoft says Gaming Revenue (Xbox) was up 64% YoY for the quarter ending Jun 30, 2020.

Content and services revenue +65% YoY
Hardware revenue +49% YoY

Strong game sales, subscription growth and hardware sell through driven by COVID-19 stay at home orders. pic.twitter.com/dBBwCsmuXC

— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) July 22, 2020

Xbox will hold its Games Showcase tomorrow to show off the latest titles coming to the platform.

I think it'll be a good show overall if you're a fan of Xbox Game Studios. No matter if you're an avowed Xbox fan or a fabled Xbox fan, it'll be good. https://t.co/A0oMFMEao2

— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) July 22, 2020

[Brian]

November release date for the X.  

 

November - Series X https://t.co/ej2N1gdSjL

— Brad Sams (@bdsams) July 22, 2020

[crispy4000]

Both Microsoft and Sony can't afford to fall behind to next year.  People will be eager to invest in home entertainment while COVID is still here.

 

I just hope we don't see many crowded lines at stores.

[JPDunks4]

8 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

November release date for the X.  

 

Already told you, 117

[TomCat]

18 hours ago, crispy4000 said:

 

You must not be referring to the SSD, because:
 

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/07/14/a-closer-look-at-xbox-velocity-architecture/

Cerny: 

 

You always trying to correct someone.  Watch the cerny video  When you combine their SSD with Kraken the geometry engine enhancements and the coherency engine  you have a max throughput of 22GBs.      When you add up the Velocity Arch.  benefits  you get 96GBs for xbox

[JPDunks4]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/microsoft-says-xbox-series-x-will-have-the-largest-launch-line-up-for-any-console-ever/

 

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Microsoft says Xbox Series X will have ‘the largest launch line-up for any console ever’
CEO PROVIDES NEXT-GEN UPDATE FOLLOWING “BREAKTHROUGH QUARTER FOR GAMING”

 

“In content we are delivering differentiated first and third-party content to attract and retain gamers,” he said. “Xbox Series X will launch this fall with the largest launch line-up for any console eve

 

[crispy4000]

7 hours ago, TomCat said:

You always trying to correct someone.  Watch the cerny video  When you combine their SSD with Kraken the geometry engine enhancements and the coherency engine  you have a max throughput of 22GBs.      When you add up the Velocity Arch.  benefits  you get 96GBs for xbox

 

Cerny said in the presentation that 22GBs was a theoretical upper figure for I/O decoding of "particularly well" compressed assets.  Some asset classes could get there, or close to it.  But certainly not everything.  Which is why he clarified that effective use for general (Krakken) compressed data would be more like 8-9 gb/s.

 

I don't know where you're pulling the "96GBs for xbox" figure from.  Whoever came to that number is trying to argue for a theoretical which, just like Sony's 22gbs datapoint, would break down in a realistic game asset compression scenario.  It's akin to when Sony used to brag about the number of unshaded polygons their systems could render.  By and large, a meaningless statistic.

 

All said, you used theoretical best-case decompression speeds to claim "that xtra fast SSD on the ps5 is not fast enough."  And haven't even sourced one of your data points.

 

This kind of logic is why I call you out so often.  Stop making asinine comparisons.

[TomCat]

5 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

 

Cerny said in the presentation that 22GBs was a theoretical upper figure for I/O decoding of "particularly well" compressed assets.  Some asset classes could get there, or close to it.  But certainly not everything.  Which is why he clarified that effective use for general (Krakken) compressed data would be more like 8-9 gb/s.

 

I don't know where you're pulling the "96GBs for xbox" data from.  Whoever came to that number is clearly trying to argue for a theoretical, which just like Sony's 22gbs figure, would break down in a realistic game asset compression scenario.  It's akin to when Sony used to brag about the number of unshaded polyons their systems could render.  By and large, it's meaningless.

 

All told, you used theoretical best-case decompression speeds to claim "that xtra fast SSD on the ps5 is not fast enough."  And haven't even sourced one of your data points.

 

This kind of logic is why I call you out so often.  Stop making asinine comparisons.

Not asinine  all you have to do is do the math from the Velocity tech article.   Its all in there

[crispy4000]

16 minutes ago, TomCat said:

Not asinine  all you have to do is do the math from the Velocity tech article.   Its all in there

 

I'll put this plain and simple:

 

If you're a game developer, should you count on Series X loading game assets as if reading 96 GB/s from an SSD?

[TomCat]

6 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

 

I'll put this plain and simple:

 

If you're a game developer, should you count on Series X loading game assets as if reading 96 GB/s from an SSD?

I heard a dev. in a podcast say yes   I'll believe him over you but I forgot that you are smarter then Phil Spencer and Cerny

[crispy4000]

3 minutes ago, TomCat said:

I heard a dev. in a podcast say yes   I'll believe him over you but I forgot that you are smarter then Phil Spencer and Cerny

 

And my uncle who is a game dev said no. LOL

Source it please.

[TomCat]

14 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

 

And my uncle who is a game dev said no. LOL

Source it please.

source your uncle

[crispy4000]

1 hour ago, TomCat said:

source your uncle

You missed the reference.

 

You’re the one making the outlandish claim.  Tell us who is saying 96gbs compressed from a 2.4gbs SSD isn’t just a theoretical.

[chakoo]

1 hour ago, crispy4000 said:

 

And my uncle who is a game dev said no. LOL

Source it please.

I'm a former gamedev with a vast network of friends who still work for large game studios and I say LOL.

 

TomCat,

 

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I say former but I still build random shit in unity for fun when I get bored building cloud services.