CitizenVectron Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/06/more-americans-were-shot-death-by-march-this-year-than-died-d-day/?utm_term=.42861f0e3d08 When Jefferson said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants," I don't think he was referring to some sort of ongoing subscription to sacrifice. Quote
Jason Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Memorial Day should be for the dead childruns dying for our freedoms. Quote
Bacon Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 We need to arm the bullets with guns so they can shoot the other bullets that are going to kill people. Quote
CitizenVectron Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bacon said: We need to arm the bullets with guns so they can shoot the other bullets that are going to kill people. So basically "Patriot Bullet" systems. Have guns mounted on each streetlight that fire at other guns/bullets when they are fired. Quote
Bacon Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: So basically "Patriot Bullet" systems. Have guns mounted on each streetlight that fire at other guns/bullets when they are fired. That's even better. Maybe get some armed drones too. Quote
mclumber1 Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Most of these deaths were from (gang) warfare. Quote
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Most of these deaths were from (gang) warfare. We know, you don't count those. Too bad reality does. Quote
Jason Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: We know, you don't count those. You might say he silences them. Quote
SimpleG Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 5 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Most of these deaths were from (gang) warfare. 5 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: We know, you don't count those. Too bad reality does. Quote
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 57 minutes ago, SimpleG said: It's what he always brings up in response to gun violence in America. He blames most of it on gangs, like it doesn't count. Quote
mclumber1 Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 8 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: It's what he always brings up in response to gun violence in America. He blames most of it on gangs, like it doesn't count. No, my position(s) are: Gang murders (which I would include the war on drugs) DO count, and they make up the majority of gun violence. Suicides do no count. Mass shootings do count, but they make up such a small percentage of overall gun violence that they are an insignificant contributor. Quote
mclumber1 Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: Suicides don’t count lelok Our suicide rate isn't much different than that of Western European countries and Canada, where gun ownership is much more restricted. Japan and South Korea lead the civilized world in suicides, despite gun ownership being practically non-existent. Quote
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Our suicide rate isn't much different than that of Western European countries and Canada, where gun ownership is much more restricted. Japan and South Korea lead the civilized world in suicides, despite gun ownership being practically non-existent. That’s because they either hang themselves in a forest or throw themselves off a bridge. Quote
Greatoneshere Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 10:42 AM, mclumber1 said: No, my position(s) are: Gang murders (which I would include the war on drugs) DO count, and they make up the majority of gun violence. Suicides do no count. Mass shootings do count, but they make up such a small percentage of overall gun violence that they are an insignificant contributor. I would say any contribution to gun violence is a significant enough contributor to gun violence if it's statistically relevant enough to take up more than 1% of overall gun violence in America, which mass shootings do, I believe. I just don't want to minimize all the innocent deaths that result from mass shootings and call it an "insignficant contributor". Quote
CayceG Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Let's back up and focus on something for a moment. On 6/8/2019 at 9:52 AM, mclumber1 said: the civilized world Quote
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