Jason Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jwheel86 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 SMA friends of mine in the UK are trying to stock up drugs and supplies. Concern over a shortage of flu shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Big day tomorrow BoJo might also pack the House of Lords with 100 new members to delay the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 It's fitting that the inventors of modern Parliamentary democracy will be the ones who undo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 western democracies are great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 DNC if Bernie is the nominee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 that's a good non-endorsement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 British politics > American politics I think these are the moving parts: -Parliament is voting tomorrow on a bill to block No Deal, BoJo is pulling out all the stops to get Tory MPs to vote against the bill, including threats to kick them out of the party. --BoJo could stack the House of Lords to delay the bill there. -If BoJo loses the vote tomorrow (likely), he's going to call a General Election. -BoJo can't call a General Election unless Labour agrees. -If Labour agrees to a General Election, BoJo could arbitrarily move the election to after Brexit but would lose the rationale for the election. -Labour could call a Vote of No Confidence to force not only force a General Election but use the 14 day cool off period to form a Caretaker Government under Corbyn to delay Brexit until after the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If you are kicked out of the party, are you also effectively kicked out as a mp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: If you are kicked out of the party, are you also effectively kicked out as a mp? If they aren't selected to run as the party's pick for that seat, yes, but only after Parliament is dissolved. UK equivalent of being Primaried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 More fuckery options: Rebel Alliance (yes, that's what the media is calling them) leadership is meeting with Labour to discuss strategy ahead of the vote. BoJo's leak about calling a General Election is meant to scare Rebel Tory's into voting against the bill or be responsible for Prime Minister Corbyn. If the bill still passes and BoJo calls the election, Labour might not go along because BoJo has already demonstrated a willingness to mess with convention and could delay the election until after Brexit. If BoJo can't call an election with Labour's consent, he could Vote of No Confidence himself and trigger the election that way and installing himself as Caretaker PM. BoJo has significantly more cards to play than Corbyn and the Rebels, No Deal is going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: More fuckery options: Rebel Alliance (yes, that's what the media is calling them) leadership is meeting with Labour to discuss strategy ahead of the vote. BoJo's leak about calling a General Election is meant to scare Rebel Tory's into voting against the bill or be responsible for Prime Minister Corbyn. If the bill still passes and BoJo calls the election, Labour might not go along because BoJo has already demonstrated a willingness to mess with convention and could delay the election until after Brexit. If BoJo can't call an election with Labour's consent, he could Vote of No Confidence himself and trigger the election that way and installing himself as Caretaker PM. BoJo has significantly more cards to play than Corbyn and the Rebels, No Deal is going to happen. Can't the queen refuse an election and choose to install someone else as PM? I remember in history class the governor general of Canada did that once, it was called the King Bing affair as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: Can't the queen refuse an election and choose to install someone else as PM? I remember in history class the governor general of Canada did that once, it was called the King Bing affair as I recall. Sure, she won't though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Rebel Alliance (yes, that's what the media is calling them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I can 100% assure you that Jeremy Corbyn is not displeased at the prospect of bouncing out of the EU without a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The shit show as begun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The current position is Government - 319 seats vs Opposition - 320 seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: The current position is Government - 319 seats vs Opposition - 320 seats So what does this mean exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, marioandsonic said: So what does this mean exactly? It means that if all the opposition votes for no-confidence in unison, the government falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: It means that if all the opposition votes for no-confidence in unison, the government falls. The UK will fall into anarchy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: The UK will fall into anarchy? I wish! The Tories would have an opportunity to form a new working coalition (fat chance!) or a general election will be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: I wish! The Tories would have an opportunity to form a new working coalition (fat chance!) or a general election will be called. Unless Corbyn can form a Caretaker Government to disarm Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Unless Corbyn can form a Caretaker Government to disarm Johnson. Fat chance of that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Theoretically if the opposition can show the Queen that they have the confidence of the house, then they can form government without a new election. That would assume that the Queen (and all monarchy) aren't rabid Conservatives. She might have done such a thing for Tony Blair...but not for Corbyn. If there is a new election, I fully expect Johnson to get an even stronger mandate due to vote splitting. Conservatives + Brexit Party will get 50% or more of the seats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Jwheel86 said: Is this what the kids would call a top 10 anime betrayal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 What an absolute clown show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Northern Ireland and Scotland should just declare independence at this point. England itself is just fucking omnishambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I don’t understand all that is going on but I welcome other nations doing embarrassing things, makes us feel a little less lonely here in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_shapiro Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, marioandsonic said: The UK will fall into anarchy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 328-301 against BoJo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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