Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Trump Makes Surprise Visit to Iraq to See American Troops https://nyti.ms/2Re8Tc5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Bone spurs finally made it to a combat zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 would be funny if they called him out on firing mattis and saying hes making the wrong decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Bone spurs finally made it to a combat zone. His Doctor gave him a waiver so he could go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Does that guy who threw his shoes at W still live in Iraq? You know the Thicc Boi in Chief ain't dodging those shoes like W did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Why are they wearing night vision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jason said: Does that guy who threw his shoes at W still live in Iraq? You know the Thicc Boi in Chief ain't dodging those shoes like W did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 How Trump gave away his secret war zone trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 LOL, Bones Spurs was scared shitless while he was in Iraq, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 In the new year, I will aspire to love something in my life as much as Jason fucking adores Trump's presidency. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Jwheel86 said: Why are they wearing night vision? They or Trump want them to look tacticool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Getting troops captured to own the libs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Firewithin said: Getting troops captured to own the libs The troops knew what they were signing up for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Getting troops captured to own the libs Well, the President only likes people who don't get captured by the enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Will those troops face any disciplinary measures? It's one thing to be excited to meet the President, it's another to actively wear or display campaign material in uniform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: Will those troops face any disciplinary measures? It's one thing to be excited to meet the President, it's another to actively wear or display campaign material in uniform. I can't imagine why they should be. It's not like they have a constitutional mandate to remain politically neutral or something. I'd be shocked if that didn't fall under the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I can't imagine why they should be. It's not like they have a constitutional mandate to remain politically neutral or something. I'd be shocked if that didn't fall under the first. I don't think they have the same rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I can't imagine why they should be. It's not like they have a constitutional mandate to remain politically neutral or something. I'd be shocked if that didn't fall under the first. Hatch Act, and I think there's separately DoD rules about no politics on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Hatch Act, and I think there's separately DoD rules about no politics on base. "The Hatch Act does not apply to actively serving uniformed members of the Uniformed services of the United States" 7 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: I don't think they have the same rights. After a quick google, it seems you're right, though I don't think that this specific issue would be cause for concern. Most of the issues that came up immediately have to do with military personnel criticizing the president, war efforts, etc. The best quote I found on the subject is "No officer or man in the armed forces has a right, be it constitutional, statutory or otherwise, to publish any information (or make any statement) which will imperil his unit or its cause." So in general, service members do have much more limited free speech rights than civilians, regardless of being in uniform or not, but mostly it seems those limits are applied to criticisms. It's possible that showing political support could be limited, but I couldn't quickly find examples of that taking place. Still, I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Nothing is going to happen to those people at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 36 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Nothing is going to happen to those people at all. They should all be sent to war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 People overreacting to silly shit that happens related to Trump. Why I never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, TwinIon said: I can't imagine why they should be. It's not like they have a constitutional mandate to remain politically neutral or something. I'd be shocked if that didn't fall under the first. It's a violation of the UCMJ to be openly political. Quote These rules are designed to prevent military members' or federal civilian employees' participation in political activities that imply -- or even appear to imply -- official sponsorship, approval or endorsement, officials said. The concern, they explained, is that actual or perceived partisanship could undermine the legitimacy of the military profession and department. That's not to imply, however, that military members and civilian employees can't participate in politics. In fact, DOD has a longstanding policy of encouraging members to carry out the obligations of citizenship, officials said. DOD encourages its military and civilian members to register to vote and vote as they choose, they said. Both groups can sign nominating petitions for candidates and express their personal opinions about candidates and issues. However, officials emphasized, they can do so only if they don't act as, or aren't perceived as, representatives of the armed forces in carrying out these activities. Beyond that, the list of do's and dont's differs depending on whether the employee is a member of the armed forces, a career civil service employee, a political appointee or a member of the career Senior Executive Service, officials said. Military members, for example, may attend political meetings or rallies only as spectators and not in uniform. They're not permitted to make public political speeches, serve in any official capacity in partisan groups or participate in partisan political campaigns or conventions. They also are barred from engaging in any political activities while in uniform. https://www.army.mil/article/71574/rules_restrict_political_activity_by_dod_personnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 And yes this is absolutely something worth getting legitimately upset about. These soldiers deserve to get drummed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Leadership really needs to punish these people. Reduction in rank, at the very least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Leadership really needs to punish these people. Reduction in rank, at the very least. Demotion from Private to Ensign Wesley Crusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Demotion from Private to Ensign Wesley Crusher. im sure they would rather be court marshaled instead of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Firewithin said: im sure they would rather be court marshaled instead of that Once you're demoted to Ensign Wesley Crusher you cannot be discharged, only given stern talkings to by wise leaders. Unfortunately, you also have to wear his uniform while on active duty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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