Jason Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 An ER patient can be charged thousands of dollars in “trauma fees” — even if they weren’t treated for trauma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 God bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 The free market will take care of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, osxmatt said: The free market will take care of this. Trump's SCOTUS will let the hospital sell you into indentured servitude to settle your debt. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Profit motive like this is why America is the best country in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Clearly, they should have called around and priced shopped in the midst of the emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 It's funny the hospitals and companies confronted in the article literally see no problem with it. If shit like this persists, life in the US will literally be unsustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 This is why I haven't been to a doctor in a long time. I don't want to go in get checked and they give me a $10,000 to tell me I'm fine. Healthcare in America sucks. It's why so many people in California are heading g to Mexico for all their healthcare needs. Ironic isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, The def star said: This is why I haven't been to a doctor in a long time. I don't want to go in get checked and they give me a $10,000 to tell me I'm fine. Healthcare in America sucks. It's why so many people in California are heading g to Mexico for all their healthcare needs. Ironic isn't it? Sorry, but that's really dumb. A yearly checkup isn't that expensive and could save your life. Don't be a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I went in to the doctor to check an issue I was having. Paid $100 (no insurance) and he said "IDK" then gave me a referral. But I'm on Covered CA pay 1 dollar a month so I'm good now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Sorry, but that's really dumb. A yearly checkup isn't that expensive and could save your life. Don't be a moron. It may be dumb but healthcare is crazy expensive here. Look at the example in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Just now, The def star said: It may be dumb but healthcare is crazy expensive here. Look at the example in the OP. It's not cheap anywhere. But a routine health exam is certainly affordable for someone like you. You have literally no excuse, which kinda pisses me off, since there are people who legitimately can't afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, Reputator said: It's funny the hospitals and companies confronted in the article literally see no problem with it. If shit like this persists, life in the US will literally be unsustainable. 'Squeezed' paints a dark picture of an American middle class that can't keep up (Christian Science Monitor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Also slightly related to America screwing people out of their money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: It's not cheap anywhere. But a routine health exam is certainly affordable for someone like you. You have literally no excuse, which kinda pisses me off, since there are people who legitimately can't afford it. Just because I can afford it doesn't mean I want to get screwed for no reason. I know I have to go to the doctor soon just because I'm heading into my mid 30's. You think you are pissed that I choose not to go but can afford it, I'm pissed for the people who need to go and can't afford it. The healthcare system is really messed up in our country. PS. I don't want to come across like a dick. I appreciate youre concern for my health more than I am I'm just a bit afraid of what they might tell me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, The def star said: Just because I can afford it doesn't mean I want to get screwed for no reason. I know I have to go to the doctor soon just because I'm heading into my mid 30's. You think you are pissed that I choose not to go but can afford it, I'm pissed for the people who need to go and can't afford it. The healthcare system is really messed up in our country. Psssttt - you're increasing the cost for everyone else by NOT going for preventative checkups! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, The def star said: Just because I can afford it doesn't mean I want to get screwed for no reason. I know I have to go to the doctor soon just because I'm heading into my mid 30's. You think you are pissed that I choose not to go but can afford it, I'm pissed for the people who need to go and can't afford it. The healthcare system is really messed up in our country. I'm pissed about it all. I work in it. I hate that you literally have no excuse for not going, yet you refuse to go when there are people who would give anything to be in your shoes and be able to afford it. You may think you're healthy, because you're a young guy who feels good, but you really have no picture of your health until you go to a physician, get looked at, and have a wide panel of labs done. But, hey, keep making half assed excuses. Buy another Xbox instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Psssttt - you're increasing the cost for everyone else by NOT going for preventative checkups! This just goes to show how I don't know how our healthcare system even works. How is this even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, The def star said: This just goes to show how I don't know how our healthcare system even works. How is this even possible? Because let's assume that there is something actually wrong with you -- something that you won't know about UNLESS you get a preventative checkup -- then the cost of treating that condition is invariably more than if it's caught early through a preventative checkup. At that point, the costs of treatment that you or the insurance company do not pay for are distributed through the risk pool to everyone else. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Because let's assume that there is something actually wrong with you -- something that you won't know about UNLESS you get a preventative checkup -- then the cost of treating that condition is invariably more than if it's caught early through a preventative checkup. At that point, the costs of treatment are distributed through the risk pool to everyone else. Eh I'm Mexican. My plan was just to roll over and die if I was diagnosed with anything terminal On a serious note that's how a majority of my family has dealt with their health If this is the case how our health system works no wonder people are heading south of the border for health care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
run32.dll Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I'm starting a new health insurance company where if you get diagnosed with anything that requires more than 3 doctor visits to fix we send someone to your home or workplace to kill you and your family is left behind 5 common stocks in the company that will pay a quarterly dividend because our surplus value is going to be through the fucking roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: Because let's assume that there is something actually wrong with you -- something that you won't know about UNLESS you get a preventative checkup -- then the cost of treating that condition is invariably more than if it's caught early through a preventative checkup. At that point, the costs of treatment that you or the insurance company do not pay for are distributed through the risk pool to everyone else. Also I think wellness visits being covered at 100% once a year is one of the last pieces of Obamacare still standing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 5 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Sorry, but that's really dumb. A yearly checkup isn't that expensive and could save your life. Don't be a moron. Also a routine internist appointment simply doesn't present the opportunities for billing fuckery going to be hospital for. 5 hours ago, The def star said: It may be dumb but healthcare is crazy expensive here. Look at the example in the OP. Again, going to get a physical isn't the same thing as going to the ER. You are not going to get bill shock from getting a physical. If you don't have insurance then CVS Minute Clinic has a fixed menu of prices and I think they can do a physical and at least some of the bloodwork that you're supposed to get as part of a physical (like cholesterol and blood sugar). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_of_X Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 American health "care". lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Seriously, @CastlevaniaNut18, is there anything other than A1c, blood sugar, and lipids that you'd order for a standard physical? https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/services/price-lists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 That's pretty standard, though most physicians will order a complete metabolic panel instead of just the glucose, long with a CBC and probably a hepatic panel. None of those are anything crazy or expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marioandsonic Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 6/29/2018 at 3:57 PM, CastlevaniaNut18 said: That's pretty standard, though most physicians will order a complete metabolic panel instead of just the glucose, long with a CBC and probably a hepatic panel. None of those are anything crazy or expensive. My doctor orders me to get a metabolic panel blood test for every yearly checkup. Thankfully, it's one of the few things my insurance fully covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I'd like a urine dip stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentWorld Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 6/29/2018 at 1:57 PM, CastlevaniaNut18 said: That's pretty standard, though most physicians will order a complete metabolic panel instead of just the glucose, long with a CBC and probably a hepatic panel. None of those are anything crazy or expensive. I don't think a yearly physical is that important or necessary for a man in his 20's - 30's with no pre-existing health conditions. I had a shitload of doctors appointments due to recovering from injuries from a traffic collision about 5 years ago and when I was pretty much recovered I asked my doctor about yearly exams (because I hadn't been going to a doctor regularly before then) and she said they weren't really necessary until I get in my 40's or 50's. This article says basically the same thing my doctor said (except more in depth). The only thing that is really necessary (according to the article) on a man <40 years old is a blood pressure test which can be done at most pharmacies for free (I have a home blood pressure tester my mom gave me for some reason). https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/is-an-annual-physical-necessary-the-doctor-is-out-on-that-one-1.2017959 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'm 30 and I have high cholesterol, which I wouldn't have known about if I hadn't gone for a checkup. If things are fine, I'd agree you don't have to go every year, but as a guy in his mid-late 30s, like Def, it's not a bad idea to go and get a baseline on your labs, especially if you can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Plus, a lot of insurance fully covers the cost of a yearly. It's a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 The doctor my wife and I use is $125 for the first visit, then $75 after that for virtually any visit. He has a contract with a lab that is typically very reasonable (like the stuff they typically do for a physical, ~$100). This is for cash patients. Not exactly breaking the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I've gotten to the point where I ignore pain to avoid the potential of medical bills. And I've got good insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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