SaysWho? Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 This better not be a PS exclusive. This should come to ALL platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: This better not be a PS exclusive. This should come to ALL platforms. And by all systems, you mean PC and Xbox, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 59 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: This better not be a PS exclusive. This should come to ALL platforms. That is the assumption. We will have to wait for the official announcement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 This is actually great that this release is no longer stuck on the PSP (except through PSP emulation on PC). However, like with the recent Klonoa remaster collection release, I wish they included more games - at least Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen and Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber. And if they wanted to make it a kickass complete collection throw in the GBA game Ogre Battle: The Knight of Lodis and the Japan-only Neo Geo Pocket Color release Ogre Battle Gaiden. But I'll take what I can get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I loved the SNES and N64 Ogre Battle Games. Was this anything like that? Or more a turn based strategy game? I tried Fantasy Tactics once and it didn't initially grab me like the old Ogre Battle games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crispy4000 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said: I loved the SNES and N64 Ogre Battle Games. Was this anything like that? Or more a turn based strategy game? I tried Fantasy Tactics once and it didn't initially grab me like the old Ogre Battle games. More like FF Tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said: I loved the SNES and N64 Ogre Battle Games. Was this anything like that? Or more a turn based strategy game? I tried Fantasy Tactics once and it didn't initially grab me like the old Ogre Battle games. March of the Black Queen (the first SNES game and the first game in the franchise) is made by Yasumi Matsuno, who is also responsible for this game (Let Us Cling Together/Reborn) as well as FF Tactics/The War of the Lions, Final Fantasy 12, and Vagrant Story. He's one of my favorite video game writer/directors. So this game is very similar to the SNES games and FF Tactics since this is a remaster of a remake of the second SNES game. Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre are the same franchise, just with a different naming schemes. 3 of the 5 games are called Ogre Battle, and 2 of the 5 games are called Tactics Ogre, but they're all in the same universe/story that Matsuno originally created. Final Fantasy Tactics (if that's what you meant) is completely unrelated but March of the Black Queen and this game are similar to FF Tactics since it's all the same writer/director. This PSP game is a remake of the original SNES/PS1 game, Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together, which came out after the first game, which was also on SNES/PS1, The March of the Black Queen. So there were two Tactics games on the SNES/PS1, both by Matsuno, and this game Reborn is a remaster of the PSP remake of that second Tactics Ogre SNES game, Let Us Cling Together. 31 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: More like FF Tactics. Yep, same game director between them, so this is correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Fucking sweet, now give me that Tactics remaster too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 This looks more like FF Tactics than an Ogre Battle game which I like because I don't really like flat ass grid based tactics games. Sorry @JPDunks4 maybe try FFT again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 better be on switch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I never played Tactics. So this plus basically like Triangle Strategy and Octopath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I played the PSP game and enjoyed it for a while, but I always hit a point not too far into this type of game where I’m just overwhelmed and lose interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Mercury33 said: I never played Tactics. So this plus basically like Triangle Strategy and Octopath? More Triangle Strategy but yeah, older but very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Where's my Ogre Battle 64 remake?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Coming to Switch, Playstation and Steam. Sorry Xboners! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 1:50 PM, Dodger said: Fucking sweet, now give me that Tactics remaster too. 3D2D War of the Lions pls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Coming to Switch, Playstation and Steam. Sorry Xboners! Im so looking forward to this. I own Ogre Battle , but I was never able to get a copy of this. And nobody I knew owned one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Perfect handheld game. Gonna pick it up for the Deck. Edit: $50 - I’ll wait for a sale before getting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Everything looks awesome except those smoothed out pixelated art graphics ala Chrono Trigger on Steam. Why couldn't they go the Octopath Traveler, Triangle Strategy, Live A Live remake for the pixel art? Does anyone else think this looks more cartoony compared to the original graphics (PSP version I mean)? Update the original graphics, but in the way they do it for the aforementioned games, if you must. If you can't go the Live A Live remake route, at least do what the FF Pixel Remasters on Steam did - just update resolution, etc. and make everything look better but still what it's supposed to look like (pixelated). This smoothing out version like what Trigger did looks goofy and cartoony - anyone else noticing this? I can live with it but seems a shame. I guess even the original game's art leaned this way, so I suppose this is what it is supposed to look like updated compared to Trigger at least whose original version had much more of that pixelated look. Everything else looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Everything looks awesome except those smoothed out pixelated art graphics ala Chrono Trigger on Steam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You need to update the raw pixels and make them look good, something like or better than the FF pixel remasters, but the smoothing filter for stuff like Trigger and this is not good. Anyone who emulates knows there are ways to upgrade a game's old pixel art and graphics (to a degree) and no one uses the smoothing options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You need to update the raw pixels and make them look good, something like or better than the FF pixel remasters, but the smoothing filter for stuff like Trigger and this is not good. Anyone who emulates knows there are ways to upgrade a game's old pixel art and graphics (to a degree) and no one uses the smoothing options. If anything the better thing to do is use scanlines with CRT filters to make it look how it's supposed to look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: If anything the better thing to do is use scanlines with CRT filters to make it look how it's supposed to look. That'd be nice at least as an option, but I'm not a fan myself of doing that when I emulate. Using the raw pixels and improving it beyond the version with scanlines using CRT filters is my preference but I do believe this should always be provided as an option at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: That'd be nice at least as an option, but I'm not a fan myself of doing that when I emulate. Using the raw pixels and improving it beyond the version with scanlines using CRT filters is my preference but I do believe this should always be provided as an option at least. I was never really a fan until recently. I use them on Duckstation on my steam deck (or PC) and the effect is pretty nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 What no Xbox, what a bunch of bullshit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Diofield Chronicles, this, Valkyrie Elysium, SE is definitely dropping a lot that im looking forward to. And still to come is Crisis Core release date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You need to update the raw pixels and make them look good, something like or better than the FF pixel remasters, but the smoothing filter for stuff like Trigger and this is not good. Anyone who emulates knows there are ways to upgrade a game's old pixel art and graphics (to a degree) and no one uses the smoothing options. Its far from perfect, and id much prefer a proper pixel remake, but im still extremely excited to get a copy of a game I've wanted forever now, so it is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 8/4/2022 at 4:29 AM, Keyser_Soze said: Coming to Switch, Playstation and Steam. Sorry Xboners! Wonder why Xbox got the snub. I don't care about Xbox at all, but this is pretty dumb. Why not put it on ALL platforms? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: Wonder why Xbox got the snub. I don't care about Xbox at all, but this is pretty dumb. Why not put it on ALL platforms? I don't get it. I honestly think this is all a precursor of their sale to sony, which is being talked about a lot recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: I honestly think this is all a precursor of their sale to sony, which is being talked about a lot recently And Sony has no problem selling to Switch a platform that sells more than Playstation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: And Sony has no problem selling to Switch a platform that sells more than Playstation? Im guessing its previously signed contracts, no different than the next 3 CoD, or Deathloop with MS. Those contracts are signed years ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: And Sony has no problem selling to Switch a platform that sells more than Playstation? Japanese companies stick together. Also since Sony gave up on hand held, Nintendo is more of a complimentary company to Sony as opposed to real competitor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: And Sony has no problem selling to Switch a platform that sells more than Playstation? Since Diofield Chronicle is releasing on Xbox, Sony probably gets first look at what SE is doing and decides which ones it wants exclusive to its platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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