CitizenVectron Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 This is becoming a theme for Netflix Ricky Gervais’ Netflix Special Draws Criticism for Graphic Jokes Mocking Trans People VARIETY.COM Ricky Gervais' "SuperNature" has only been released on Netflix for a few hours, but has already drawn criticism. Quote "Oh, women!" he starts. "Not all women, I mean the old-fashioned ones. The old-fashioned women, the ones with wombs. Those fucking dinosaurs. I love the new women. They're great, aren't they? The new ones we've been seeing lately. The ones with beards and cocks. Quote They're as good as gold, I love them. And now the old-fashioned ones say, 'Oh, they want to use our toilets.' 'Why shouldn't they use your toilets?' 'For ladies!' 'They are ladies — look at their pronouns! What about this person isn't a lady?' 'Well, his penis.' 'Her penis, you fucking bigot!' 'What if he rapes me?' 'What if she rapes you, you fucking TERF whore?'" Quote Lacking the courage to write gags about things he actually believes, Gervais continuously inoculates himself against sincerity ("This is so childish and misinformed, it hurts," he says, giggling, before telling a long, rambling and, you guessed it, anti-trans joke). Quote Wondering what life would be if he were a teenager in these "woke times", Gervais, of course, says he would "self-ID" as trans because he is "trendy". He also cracks jokes about gender-affirming healthcare. "I'd have a big f***y," he says, adding: "I'd be a real woman … I'd be a little lesbian fella called Vicky Gervais. "I'd probably be a butch lesbian 'cause of all the testosterone till then." If you want something that puts Gervais in his place, this James Acaster bit (targeted at Gervais) is great: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I'm so tired of these aging assholes just trying to get a rise out of people, rather than trying to make people laugh. The only ones they care about making laugh is themselves because they find it funny to piss people off, and if other assholes laugh along with them then all the better for them. In their minds they can do no wrong, and any criticisms against them is an attack, rather than a call for self reflection and improvement. Gervais's standup has always sucked though. He was better as just an actor and writer for things like The Office and Extras. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Ricky Gervais Starves to Death After Massive Fire Destroys All Low-Hanging Fruit HARD-DRIVE.NET Ricky Gervais was found dead after a massive fire in Los Angeles burned away all low-hanging fruit, which was his only source of sustenance. lol Quote LOS ANGELES — Comedian Ricky Gervais was found dead at age 60 in his home this morning after a massive fire in Los Angeles burned away all low-hanging fruit, which was his only source of sustenance, according to those familiar with the situation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Can’t wait to watch. I could use a good laugh. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Biggie said: Can’t wait to watch. I could use a good laugh. Fuck you 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, Brick said: I'm so tired of these aging assholes just trying to get a rise out of people, rather than trying to make people laugh. The only ones they care about making laugh is themselves because they find it funny to piss people off, and if other assholes laugh along with them then all the better for them. In their minds they can do no wrong, and any criticisms against them is an attack, rather than a call for self reflection and improvement. Gervais's standup has always sucked though. He was better as just an actor and writer for things like The Office and Extras. Ooof, hard disagree on Gervais's previous stand up. He has some brilliant bits about religion, regular life, and caring for animals (like old Chappelle stuff). But I am 100% with you on this, it's so disappointing. It's so weird that they can't get past trans stuff. What the fuck is the big deal? First of all, there's pre-op and post-op, just for starters. So no not "all of them" have penises per se. And choosing to cut up and change your whole body, even just talking drugs to change your body is life altering. No one's doing this as some sort of lark or call for attention, trans people struggle immensely with identity, etc. To casually be like: "oh I'd be trans cause it's trendy" is still the dumbest thing I keep hearing. A shame. Most men wouldn't get pregnant for their partners if that option was on the table, but they'd go trans in a heartbeat? Sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Fuck you Back at ya bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I just don’t find it funny to be mean to people. I don’t know why that is such a draw for so many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 He’s probably just trying to secure a deal for 4 more Netflix specials. This is obviously how you do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Kendrick Lamar addressed this issue (in a positive way) on his new album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Ricky Gervais has always been the RC Cola of British standup to me. Nothing he has done holds a candle to Terrifying Times or Dresses to Kill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Some women have peepees hahaha I will make my whole act based on my inability to accommodate new information. I also fashion myself as an irony free iconoclast who at some point didn’t realize that I went from speaking truth to power to wielding power myself. Worship me. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I just don’t find it funny to be mean to people. I don’t know why that is such a draw for so many. That's like Gervais' whole deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: That's like Gervais' whole deal In his standup, indeed! It’s why despite being a big fan of most of his TV series I just never get into his standup. There a few shows I can think of less cynical and mean spirited than Derek, and it is without a doubt my favorite thing he has ever crafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: Some women have peepees hahaha I will make my whole act based on my inability to accommodate new information. I also fashion myself as an irony free iconoclast who at some point didn’t realize that I went from speaking truth to power to wielding power myself. Worship me. So accurate it had to be quoted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I really don't watch much standup comedy. Maybe this is why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I really don't watch much standup comedy. Maybe this is why? There's lots of really great stand up comedians, typically younger people, who do great jokes. Gervais and Chappelle have just forgotten where they come from, or have gotten too old, or both. That's the thing, stand-up comedy can be very toxic, but there's already proof of tons of comedians whose jokes never punch down and the jokes work great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I really don't watch much standup comedy. Maybe this is why? I'm with you - I've never found stand-up comedy to be particularly entertaining or worth my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Biggie said: Can’t wait to watch. I could use a good laugh. Between this and the ridiculous comment you made in the Depp/Heard thread, you're really trying to push my buttons, aren't you? Trust me, I'm not exactly in a "forgiving" mood lately so consider this a warning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I really don't watch much standup comedy. Maybe this is why? Standup comics are some of the most insufferable people to be around. I know several... they really aren't all that self aware and they are almost ALWAYS performing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Between this and the ridiculous comment you made in the Depp/Heard thread, you're really trying to push my buttons, aren't you? Trust me, I'm not exactly in a "forgiving" mood lately so consider this a warning. Oh, please do. Pretty please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Oh, please do. Pretty please? Trust me, I really had to exercise some degree of restraint after that comment in the Heard/Depp thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Trust me, I really had to exercise some degree of restraint after that comment in the Heard/Depp thread. I missed that, I guess. But knowing him, I can't even imagine the depths of total depravity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I missed that, I guess. But knowing him, I can't even imagine the depths of total depravity. I hid it as quickly as I could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 9 hours ago, sblfilms said: I just don’t find it funny to be mean to people. I don’t know why that is such a draw for so many. Yeah but don’t you quietly agree with a lot of the stuff that Chapelle and Gervais believe in? I’m not gonna let you pat yourself on the back just because you silently look down on a marginalized group of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I hid it as quickly as I could. No wonder I couldn't find it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Standup comics are some of the most insufferable people to be around. I know several... they really aren't all that self aware and they are almost ALWAYS performing. I’m not saying I haven’t met standups like that, but don’t you live in LA? A city like that is obviously gonna attract a certain type of comic. I found the standup scene in Orlando to be low key toxic but where I live currently I find the scene to be supper positive and supportive. Some of my favorite people are comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kamusha said: Yeah but don’t you quietly agree with a lot of the stuff that Chapelle and Gervais believe in? I’m not gonna let you pat yourself on the back just because you silently look down on a marginalized group of people. Glad you’re back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: There's lots of really great stand up comedians, typically younger people, who do great jokes. Gervais and Chappelle have just forgotten where they come from, or have gotten too old, or both. That's the thing, stand-up comedy can be very toxic, but there's already proof of tons of comedians whose jokes never punch down and the jokes work great. I've seen snippets of various comics that I've liked over the years, but it's not something I make a habit of watching. Jim Jeffries has some good stuff, as did George Carlin. And I guess it counts, but I saw the Liberal Redneck Comedy Tour a couple years ago for my birthday when that trio was in town and enjoyed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kamusha said: I’m not saying I haven’t met standups like that, but don’t you live in LA? A city like that is obviously gonna attract a certain type of comic. I found the standup scene in Orlando to be low key toxic but where I live currently I find the scene to be supper positive and supportive. Some of my favorite people are comics. I live in LA but most of the stand ups I know are from NY and in the New York scene... same difference though I guess My ex is a stand up and she's a sweetheart, but her friends She always complained about them stealing each other's jokes too. Very competitive and envious scene from what i understand. Maybe it's different in other parts of the country. I know Chicago has a real supportive comedic community but that's more improv than stand up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I really don't watch much standup comedy. Maybe this is why? It’s unfair to write off an entire art form because of one cishet bigot. Here’s a trans comic who I really enjoy. Unfortunately there’s the old guard like Gervais which gives standup a bad name but there are truly a bunch of younger comics who are working at making comedy a more inclusive and positive space. I’m actually performing at an all woman showcase next month! It’s getting better bit by bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Glad you’re back What can I say, I don’t know how to break a bad habit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I honestly just don't care about the genre as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I honestly just don't care about the genre as a whole. What don't you care about it? A little bit of background in case you don't already know, I'm a trans woman comedian who is using my platform to shed light on important issues while also keeping my audiences entertained. So it's kinda weird for me to see an entire art form denigrated just because of some transphobe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I live in LA but most of the stand ups I know are from NY and in the New York scene... same difference though I guess My ex is a stand up and she's a sweetheart, but her friends She always complained about them stealing each other's jokes too. Very competitive and envious scene from what i understand. Maybe it's different in other parts of the country. I know Chicago has a real supportive comedic community but that's more improv than stand up. Yeah the scenes in LA and NY certainly intimidate me. I'd like to move to a major city eventually to get more work but currently not feeling either city. Half the comics in Orlando were certainly the way you described. You could never have an actual conversation with another comic, it just felt like a continual contest of who can add the funniest line. And from my experience, those who do improv are much less competitive and better at being team players. I've recently started dating someone in improv, and I find his lack of ego to be very refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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