Bloodporne Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Finished it... How they crammed even more boring, confused walking around into the last episode is beyond me. Some real bed-shitting going on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Also seriously some of the weirdest music choices I've seen in a while. And I like ALL those songs! Just... they have literally nothing to do with anything and add nothing. Hearing Black Sabbath randomly at the end of one of those made zero sense. It's jarring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 The more I think about this show, the worse it becomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, Bloodporne said: Also seriously some of the weirdest music choices I've seen in a while. And I like ALL those songs! Just... they have literally nothing to do with anything and add nothing. Hearing Black Sabbath randomly at the end of one of those made zero sense. It's jarring. The end credits music choices were ill-considered to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The more I think about this show, the worse it becomes. This. It's basically Spoiler The Village but way more pretentious. The fucking double-gotcha at the end is...just, come on give me a break! Surprise, it's this, but no it's this BUT IT WAS YOU ALL ALONE LOL. The whole last episode just made it worse and I was already getting sick of its antics. The "artsy" music choices, the writing, the fake-outs, it all strikes me as smug and up its own ass and none of it works. I mean compare this to some Black Mirror episodes that touch on similar subjects and it's a painful mess. How the fuck they didn't get into the WHY of the whole time period, ships etc. is baffling to me. Why are they in a Titanic simulation? Why Sink Ship, why so many of these elements that they framed as important to the plot earlier on? It did that "cos it all isn't real!" copout to seemingly drop all the plot points of the early episodes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: This. It's basically Hide contents The Village but way more pretentious. The fucking double-gotcha at the end is...just, come on give me a break! Surprise, it's this, but no it's this BUT IT WAS YOU ALL ALONE LOL. The whole last episode just made it worse and I was already getting sick of its antics. The "artsy" music choices, the writing, the fake-outs, it all strikes me as smug and up its own ass and none of it works. I mean compare this to some Black Mirror episodes that touch on similar subjects and it's a painful mess. How the fuck they didn't get into the WHY of the whole time period, ships etc. is baffling to me. Why are they in a Titanic simulation? Why Sink Ship, why so many of these elements that they framed as important to the plot earlier on? It did that "cos it all isn't real!" copout to seemingly drop all the plot points of the early episodes. I honestly cannot disagree with any of this whatsoever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 11 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I honestly cannot disagree with any of this whatsoever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 I enjoyed it overall. I personally didn't mind the slow pace and I think the criticisms about the language barriers are maybe a bit nit picky. I did say jokingly earlier "some things transcend language" but I think it did turn out that way for a lot of points. Like the Ling Yi and Olek interactions, a person could make the connection that someone is uneasy even if you can't understand from their language that they are. For the most part a lot of characters could actually understand at least some other people. The rich lady could understand Chinese, French and English. The one French chick could understand some English, etc. As for circular action they do return to some places but something different happens, however, I think it mostly pushes ahead. There are so many characters and so many things going on I think the episodes got by pretty quickly. As for the ending it's building up to something like, take it or leave it, I anticipated something of that nature happening. I didn't hate it one way or the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I watched the whole thing, so that is something. The story suffers a bit from plot puppet character choices, excessive use of meaningful stares, and some awkward social issues tourism. Despite those consistent flaws, it still held my interest, though maybe half of that was me holding out to the end to have all the data I needed to judge it more harshly! Dark was better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 I do think, however, now that the cat's out of the bag (well for those that who have watched) that if they made a second season that the show could really go anywhere at this point, and they wouldn't have to do a slow plodding mystery but rather explore further scenarios Spoiler At the end you saw the rest of the people, conceivably you could go into scenarios into their minds or go further into the future. You could really do some crazy stuff now. But that's all assuming they want to make more. The ending was rather ambiguous. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: I do think, however, now that the cat's out of the bag (well for those that who have watched) that if they made a second season that the show could really go anywhere at this point, and they wouldn't have to do a slow plodding mystery but rather explore further scenarios Reveal hidden contents At the end you saw the rest of the people, conceivably you could go into scenarios into their minds or go further into the future. You could really do some crazy stuff now. But that's all assuming they want to make more. The ending was rather ambiguous. Spoiler I fear West World nonsense if a second season happens, and I have every reason to believe one will unless the show proves unpopular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Hide contents I fear West World nonsense if a second season happens, and I have every reason to believe one will unless the show proves unpopular. It's a Netflix show so nothing is guaranteed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Ok, this show is unintentionally hilarious. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Cancelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Honestly, I am pretty close to dropping Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Brian said: Honestly, I am pretty close to dropping Netflix. as soon as they implement the password sharing i’m just gonna pirate all their shows and movies i wanna watch. my brother currently pays for it and i can’t justify paying for that shit myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, johnny said: as soon as they implement the password sharing i’m just gonna pirate all their shows and movies i wanna watch. my brother currently pays for it and i can’t justify paying for that shit myself. I already pirated the most recent Stranger Things season. Between the high prices and making me repeatedly think about whether or not it's worth it with the high pace of price hikes it was hard to justify just keeping it around just to always have it around. With this sort of service I feel like you want the recurring charge out of sight out of mind with your customers, not constantly forcing them to reevaluate the value proposition of the service via price hikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 This is getting fucking stupid and I didn't even like this damn show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 It was nice of @Mr.Vic20 being optimistic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 11/27/2022 at 8:01 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The more I think about this show, the worse it becomes. How about now that we know for a fact no further explanations are even coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: How about now that we know for a fact no further explanations are even coming. It retroactively improves the series as I can now pretend that it didn't actually exist at all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I think 2 things can be true… Netflix’s pump and dump strategy is bad. People expecting these shows to be written in such a way that everything is planned out with accurate foresight about how long it’ll run to avoid “unsatisfying endings” and hedged stories is unrealistic and also bad.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: People expecting these shows to be written in such a way that everything is planned out with accurate foresight about how long it’ll run to avoid “unsatisfying endings” and hedged stories is unrealistic and also bad.. Supposedly for this they had three seasons in mind. But I think the way it ended could be taken as a conclusion or a cliffhanger. The unfortunate part is for people who didn't enjoy this particular show didn't get a chance to have it redeemed by a second season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Basically unless a show is the #1 watched thing on the entire internet in the first weekend, then Netflix is going to cancel it. I'm glad I just set up a home Plex server so I can just download and watch whatever I want with the same type of UI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 It’s more notable coming from Netflix because they’re basically the biggest name in TV and they make a lot of shows, but don’t something like half of all TV shows not make it past one season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, TheLeon said: It’s more notable coming from Netflix because they’re basically the biggest name in TV and they make a lot of shows, but don’t something like half of all TV shows not make it past one season? It's definitely more than 50% in recent history for broadcast shows; IIRC it was 2/3 or slightly more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Netflix Has Created A Self-Fulfilling Cancelation Loop With Its New Shows WWW.FORBES.COM A couple weeks ago, I remarked that Netflix now felt like it was “actively stealing time from me.” I can almost not even remember which cancelation I was talking about at the time, given... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 That's a great article even though it feels like he didn't finish it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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