CitizenVectron Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 Looks like strikes in most areas of Ukraine, tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Looks like strikes in most areas of Ukraine, tonight Hopefully they hit their own men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 So we're pretty much in the same place, where Russian forces aren't capable of breaking through so they're just slinging rockets/artillery into cities out of desperation, its not going to work, but its how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 The Russians launched 30 missiles at a military training facility only 10 miles from the Polish border. It's safe to assume that the scale of the attack indicates that the Russians believed it was being used as a logistics hub for the weapons and supplies coming in from the west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 Two NYT journalists shot in Irpin, north of Kyiv: one dead, the other receiving treatment in Kyiv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Another really great interview in the New Yorker, this time with a historian who has written two fantastic biographies of Stalin with a third that covers WWII to Stalin's death in 1953 forthcoming: A Scholar of Stalin Discusses Putin, Russia, Ukraine, and the West | The New Yorker WWW.NEWYORKER.COM An expert on Stalin discusses Putin, Russia, and the West. Quote Stephen Kotkin is one of our most profound and prodigious scholars of Russian history. His masterwork is a biography of Josef Stalin. So far he has published two volumes––“Paradoxes of Power, 1878-1928,” which was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize, and “Waiting for Hitler, 1929-1941.” A third volume will take the story through the Second World War; Stalin’s death, in 1953; and the totalitarian legacy that shaped the remainder of the Soviet experience. Taking advantage of long-forbidden archives in Moscow and beyond, Kotkin has written a biography of Stalin that surpasses those by Isaac Deutscher, Robert Conquest, Robert C. Tucker, and countless others. Kotkin has a distinguished reputation in academic circles. He is a professor of history at Princeton University and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, at Stanford University. He has myriad sources in various realms of contemporary Russia: government, business, culture. Both principled and pragmatic, he is also more plugged in than any reporter or analyst I know. Ever since we met in Moscow, many years ago––Kotkin was doing research on the Stalinist industrial city of Magnitogorsk––I’ve found his guidance on everything from the structure of the Putin regime to its roots in Russian history to be invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Two NYT journalists shot in Irpin, north of Kyiv: one dead, the other receiving treatment in Kyiv. The killed journalist is supposedly Brent Renaud: Renaud Brothers | Peabody Award Winning Documentarians and Filmmakers WWW.RENAUDBROTHERS.COM The Renaud's have spent the last decade telling humanistic verite stories from the World's hot spots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Renaud was not on assignment for the NYT at the time of his death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Chinese "officialdom" appears to be sending signals about their displeasure with Moscow. Actual article: Possible Outcomes of the Russo-Ukrainian War and China's Choice - U.S.-China Perception Monitor USCNPM.ORG Hu Wei is the vice-chairman of the Public Policy Research Center of the Counselor's Office of the State Council, the chairman of Shanghai Public Policy Research Association, the chairman of the Academic Committee of the Chahar Institute, a professor, and a doctoral supervisor. For extended reading, click here to view the author's article on “How did Deng Xiaoping coordinate the domestic and international affairs?” Quote The Russo-Ukrainian War is the most severe geopolitical conflict since World War II and will result in far greater global consequences than September 11 attacks. At this critical moment, China needs to accurately analyze and assess the direction of the war and its potential impact on the international landscape. At the same time, in order to strive for a relatively favorable external environment, China needs to respond flexibly and make strategic choices that conform to its long-term interests. Russia’s ‘special military operation’ against Ukraine has caused great controversy in China, with its supporters and opponents being divided into two implacably opposing sides. This article does not represent any party and, for the judgment and reference of the highest decision-making level in China, this article conducts an objective analysis on the possible war consequences along with their corresponding countermeasure options. A Chinese diplomat posted this which draws an unfavorable (and entirely accurate!) comparison between the performance of the Russian UN ambassador in front of the UNSC regarding the "biolabs" in Ukraine to Colin Powell's UNSC performance about the Iraqi WMD program in 2003: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Jomini's "intelligence briefing" for 13 March 2022: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Seems maybe Russia is starting to see this isn't gonna go the way they want. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reputator Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Seems maybe Russia is starting to see this isn't gonna go the way they want. Here's hoping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Kotkin has a distinguished reputation in academic circles. He is a professor of history at Princeton University and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, at Stanford University. Ngl this makes him instantly suspect to me. I’ll take your word for it here, and I suppose if someone is interested in researching communist-branded totalitarianism this might be a place to be, but Hoover is filled with right wing ultra reactionaries to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Chinese "officialdom" appears to be sending signals about their displeasure with Moscow. Actual article: Possible Outcomes of the Russo-Ukrainian War and China's Choice - U.S.-China Perception Monitor USCNPM.ORG Hu Wei is the vice-chairman of the Public Policy Research Center of the Counselor's Office of the State Council, the chairman of Shanghai Public Policy Research Association, the chairman of the Academic Committee of the Chahar Institute, a professor, and a doctoral supervisor. For extended reading, click here to view the author's article on “How did Deng Xiaoping coordinate the domestic and international... A Chinese diplomat posted this which draws an unfavorable (and entirely accurate!) comparison between the performance of the Russian UN ambassador in front of the UNSC regarding the "biolabs" in Ukraine to Colin Powell's UNSC performance about the Iraqi WMD program in 2003: Read this. Very concise and logical, however... Sounds like China's reaction to the article was....an unhappy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Comet Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Another really great interview in the New Yorker, this time with a historian who has written two fantastic biographies of Stalin with a third that covers WWII to Stalin's death in 1953 forthcoming: A Scholar of Stalin Discusses Putin, Russia, Ukraine, and the West | The New Yorker WWW.NEWYORKER.COM An expert on Stalin discusses Putin, Russia, and the West. I remember reading his Magnetic Mountain in grad school, thanks for sharing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Kinda looks like Ukraine is working to cut off the forces NW of Kyiv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Another really great interview in the New Yorker, this time with a historian who has written two fantastic biographies of Stalin with a third that covers WWII to Stalin's death in 1953 forthcoming: A Scholar of Stalin Discusses Putin, Russia, Ukraine, and the West | The New Yorker WWW.NEWYORKER.COM An expert on Stalin discusses Putin, Russia, and the West. I've read his first biography, the second is on my shelf. Really fantastic work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chollowa Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Jason said: She always looks like she's being trolled by her hair and makeup person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Chollowa said: She always looks like she's being trolled by her hair and makeup person. Once you get too old at Fox News you need to go with the CBN look in order to bring in those boomer views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Now in what world does China look at this and go yeah, let's send our shit to them to be exploded, or worse soldiers to die, lol. I'm not sure Russia understands client states don't get to make demands, they are new to this though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mclumber1 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 China is wet dreaming of all of that wide open, sparsely populated land in Eastern Siberia that is just being begged to be annexed from a weakened Russia. It's in China's best interests to see the Russians receive a humiliating defeat in Ukraine, and a subsequent dissolution of the Russian government and military. Probably not going to happen of course, but Xi can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: China is wet dreaming of all of that wide open, sparsely populated land in Eastern Siberia that is just being begged to be annexed from a weakened Russia. It's in China's best interests to see the Russians receive a humiliating defeat in Ukraine, and a subsequent dissolution of the Russian government and military. Probably not going to happen of course, but Xi can dream. Russian state companies like Gasprom going to be under new management at best. Russia doesn’t have much else that China would really want I wouldn’t think. Maybe the assets of these companies instead of an ownership stake or controlling interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Just now, Jwheel86 said: Fox News Moscow level shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 Big if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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