outsida Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 CNN is saying the Plane shot down over Kyiv was a Ukrainian warplane shot down by a Russian surface to air missile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, outsida said: CNN is saying the Plane shot down over Kyiv was a Ukrainian warplane shot down by a Russian surface to air missile. I don't think this is unlikely. I would put better odds on it being a Russian plane shot down by a Ukrainian SAM simply because I don't think any Russian equipment is in range of Kyiv yet. I'll need to see some wreckage though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, outsida said: CNN is saying the Plane shot down over Kyiv was a Ukrainian warplane shot down by a Russian surface to air missile. That would make more sense now that I've given it some thought - why would a lone Russian fighter/bomber be flying over Kyiv? Also, I don't rule out the possibility that it's a friendly fire incident and that the SAM was Ukrainian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Somebody has it wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I really, really don't get why a solitary Russian aircraft would be flying over Kyiv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Basically, we'll have to wait a few hours for daylight before wreckage can be seen. I just don't want to believe Ukraine has lost the skies over Kyiv yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Ghost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I imagine someone covered this like 15 pages ago, but what the hell is Putin's endgame here? I mean the man must surely know that in the long term the cost of trying to hold onto Ukraine against Western resistance will enfeeble Russia economically and probably politically...Right? Is this just supposed to be a prelude to annexing more of Ukraine? Like 'campaign' there for a bit, blow up some military infrastructure, then annex the parts of it that are supposedly 'declaring independence' before withdrawing troops from a wider occupation? Or has he really gone off the deep end into "WE SHALL REBUILD THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE!' territory? I'm more up on my Chinese geopolitics than my post-Soviet Russia geopolitics these days, so I really can't get a read on what Mr. KGB is thinking this will all accomplish. Can someone enlighten me? Or at least tell me what page Cayce and SFLU already explained it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Or has he really gone off the deep end into "WE SHALL REBUILD THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE!' territory? Yes - this GENUINELY appears to be at the root of it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 In the words of President Merkin Muffley in Doctor Strangelove, Putin "went a little funny in the head. You know. Just a little funny. And he... went and did a silly thing." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I imagine someone covered this like 15 pages ago, but what the hell is Putin's endgame here? I mean the man must surely know that in the long term the cost of trying to hold onto Ukraine against Western resistance will enfeeble Russia economically and probably politically...Right? Is this just supposed to be a prelude to annexing more of Ukraine? Like 'campaign' there for a bit, blow up some military infrastructure, then annex the parts of it that are supposedly 'declaring independence' before withdrawing troops from a wider occupation? Or has he really gone off the deep end into "WE SHALL REBUILD THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE!' territory? I'm more up on my Chinese geopolitics than my post-Soviet Russia geopolitics these days, so I really can't get a read on what Mr. KGB is thinking this will all accomplish. Can someone enlighten me? Or at least tell me what page Cayce and SFLU already explained it on? I dunno how to find it now, but someone who seemed to know what they were talking about was making the case in a Twitter thread that since COVID he's become significantly more isolated and is only listening to a very few people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 This crazy ass. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: I dunno how to find it now, but someone who seemed to know what they were talking about was making the case in a Twitter thread that since COVID he's become significantly more isolated and is only listening to a very few people. Yeah he's deathly afraid of Covid Why the big table in Moscow? Macron refused a Russian Covid test | CNN WWW.CNN.COM There's socially distanced, and then there's French President Emmanuel Macron sitting on the opposite end of an enormous table during talks with his Russian counterpart Vladimir... example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 And allegedly he doesn’t want to be injected with anything I can’t imagine why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Yes - this GENUINELY appears to be at the root of it all. 7 minutes ago, CayceG said: In the words of President Merkin Muffley in Doctor Strangelove, Putin "went a little funny in the head. You know. Just a little funny. And he... went and did a silly thing." 5 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: I dunno how to find it now, but someone who seemed to know what they were talking about was making the case in a Twitter thread that since COVID he's become significantly more isolated and is only listening to a very few people. Yikes. If that's the case, I find it very weird to find myself pining for the old 'Putin qua evil genius' over our current 'Putin qua demented foolhardy revanchist'. At least the evil genius has a rational endgame in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: I dunno how to find it now, but someone who seemed to know what they were talking about was making the case in a Twitter thread that since COVID he's become significantly more isolated and is only listening to a very few people. The tweet attributed that to Macron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Didn’t he just finish sitting right next to Khan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Joe said: Didn’t he just finish sitting right next to Khan? Do you people not read? Macron didn't want a Russian COVID test. Khan likely took one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Thanks to covid-19, Vladimir Putin has become almost invisible | The Economist WWW.ECONOMIST.COM The Russian president doesn’t seem to trust his own vaccine From Putin to Bismarck, an Autocrat's Fear of Germs WWW.VOANEWS.COM Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin, is taking far more stringent precautions than most of his counterparts around the world to prevent the coronavirus Putin says he may not attend climate summit COP26 over Covid fears WWW.CNBC.COM Russian President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday that he may not attend the COP26 in Glasgow in November, over concerns about the coronavirus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Do you people not read? Macron didn't want a Russian COVID test. Khan likely took one. Havent read anywhere that says he took one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I imagine someone covered this like 15 pages ago, but what the hell is Putin's endgame here? I mean the man must surely know that in the long term the cost of trying to hold onto Ukraine against Western resistance will enfeeble Russia economically and probably politically...Right? Is this just supposed to be a prelude to annexing more of Ukraine? Like 'campaign' there for a bit, blow up some military infrastructure, then annex the parts of it that are supposedly 'declaring independence' before withdrawing troops from a wider occupation? Or has he really gone off the deep end into "WE SHALL REBUILD THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE!' territory? I'm more up on my Chinese geopolitics than my post-Soviet Russia geopolitics these days, so I really can't get a read on what Mr. KGB is thinking this will all accomplish. Can someone enlighten me? Or at least tell me what page Cayce and SFLU already explained it on? He’s trying to rank up on the Soviet Ruler Leaderboards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe said: Havent read anywhere that says he took one. Well this was taken yesterday and there's no giant table between them so we can reasonably conclude that he did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Jason said: Well this was taken yesterday and there's no giant table between them so we can reasonably conclude that he did. Or he just set that ridiculous rule for Macron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 French = stinky Mystery solved 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Comet said: Seems like an intercepted missile perhaps I saw that avatar on the first tweet and had to stop and think for a moment about what avatar Wade is currently using on Twitter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Joe said: Havent read anywhere that says he took one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Joe said: Or he just set that ridiculous rule for Macron. Jair Bolsonaro took five Covid tests to shake Vladimir Putin’s hand WWW.THETIMES.CO.UK Brazil’s populist leader has met President Putin in Moscow after apparently submitting to demands that he take multiple coronavirus tests Yeah I was definitely wrong there lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Joe said: Jair Bolsonaro took five Covid tests to shake Vladimir Putin’s hand WWW.THETIMES.CO.UK Brazil’s populist leader has met President Putin in Moscow after apparently submitting to demands that he take multiple coronavirus tests Yeah I was definitely wrong there lol. If there’s one person you want to test five times it is bolsonaro 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If there’s one person you want to test five times it is bolsonaro Even if all five came back negative, I’d still give him the Macron treatment just in case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If there’s one person you want to test five times it is bolsonaro Is constipation contagious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Jason said: Is constipation contagious? Do you have roommates? Could find an answer pretty quickly if you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 We're in the area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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