Chairslinger Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Watch USPS service in Wisconsin mysteriously grind to a complete halt that miraculously resolves itself on November 10. I strongly expect that anything short of a huge landslide win for Biden will be litigated up to SCOTUS on specious grounds where they will hand him the presidency with a BvG on steroids ruling. There was already a ton of potential for Trump to pull some litigious bullshit on any number of made up technicalities. Now that they don't even need Roberts to sign on to whatever fuckery they've got in store I am not super optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I don't think that SCOTUS is as corrupt as some people here. They won't make something up out of thin air to keep Trump in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Massdriver said: I don't think that SCOTUS is as corrupt as some people here. They won't make something up out of thin air to keep Trump in power. That's basically what they did in Gore v Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: That's basically what they did in Gore v Bush. Exactly. They could have let the Presidency temporarily pass to the House Speaker while the recount occurred in FL, but they chose not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Exactly. They could have let the Presidency temporarily pass to the House Speaker while the recount occurred in FL, but they chose not to. And they knew they were handing down such a shit ruling that they put it in the ruling that it wasn't precedent for anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Massdriver said: I don't think that SCOTUS is as corrupt as some people here. They won't make something up out of thin air to keep Trump in power. No, it's up to Trump's lawyers to make something up out of thin air. SCOTUS only has to rule on it Things like the most recent Obamacare case and the replay of the Louisiana trap laws show just how little the 4 conservatives minus Roberts care about having any ledge of legitimacy to stand on if it means getting to their outcome driven opinion. Like I said, I think a genuine landslide still renders it moot. But there's a margin in there for a judgement call. It was already not 50-50 with Roberts and it just slid right. If a case came before the court and essentially leaned Biden's way 51-49, do you honestly think Thomas and Alito would vote to hand Biden the presidency? Whose gonna be that 5th vote to hand Biden the presidency? The guy who thinks states can literally establish official religions? The guy who vowed revenge against the Democratic party on national television? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Roberts threw out the main enforcement mechanism of the voting rights act because the formula used to decide what states and localities were subject to preclearance was 40 years old, despite the law being renewed by congress nearly unanimously in 2006 and signed into law by the president, only 7 years prior to the case coming before the court. That’s it. That’s the reasoning. the roberts court will absolutely make up whatever they need to in order to advance their version of the conservative agenda. Every conservative member of the court is a federalist society goon, don’t ever forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: the roberts court will absolutely make up whatever they need to in order to advance their version of the conservative agenda. Every conservative member of the court is a federalist society goon, don’t ever forget it. Ding ding ding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Jeffrey Toobin warns Republicans in NC and WI could declare Trump the winner — regardless of the vote WWW.RAWSTORY.COM On CNN Monday, chief legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin warned of a possible scenario in which close states with right-wing legislatures could find a pretext to overturn the election and hand their electoral votes to President Donald Trump. “What is so remarkable is how many different tentacles there are,” said Toobin. “Bush v. Gore was just […] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I also predicted that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, Jason said: Jeffrey Toobin warns Republicans in NC and WI could declare Trump the winner — regardless of the vote WWW.RAWSTORY.COM On CNN Monday, chief legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin warned of a possible scenario in which close states with right-wing legislatures could find a pretext to overturn the election and hand their electoral votes to President Donald Trump. “What is so remarkable is how many different tentacles there are,” said Toobin. “Bush v. Gore was just […] Call in the National Guard to close off the capitol building and keep the legislature from convening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: Jeffrey Toobin warns Republicans in NC and WI could declare Trump the winner — regardless of the vote WWW.RAWSTORY.COM On CNN Monday, chief legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin warned of a possible scenario in which close states with right-wing legislatures could find a... Also I can tell you how the courts conservatives will rule http://en.m.wikipedia.org//static/favicon/wikipedia.ico Arizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG so next look where republicans have both houses and proceed accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 And for those of you keeping score at home, republicans hold both state houses in AZ, wi, mi, pa, nc, ga, fl, oh, tx and even the governor of az, ga, fl, oh, and tx not saying this will happen, but the republicans have means, motive, opportunity, and a lack of meaningful repercussions due to undemocratic gerrymandering, a broken constitution (encompassing the election of the president to the judicial system and more) and general authoritarian tendencies of one party and sheepishness of the so called opposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Biden and his team have good instincts on this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 http://thehill.com//apple-touch-icon.png Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 felons in Florida so they can vote THEHILL.COM Billionaire Michael Bloomberg has reportedly raised more than $16 million in an effort to help convicted felons in Florida register to vote. This is good, but it's important to note that this is money that he has raised, not his own money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: http://thehill.com//apple-touch-icon.png Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 felons in Florida so they can vote THEHILL.COM Billionaire Michael Bloomberg has reportedly raised more than $16 million in an effort to help convicted felons in Florida register to vote. This is good, but it's important to note that this is money that he has raised, not his own money. Still absolutely amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Firewithin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: well if one thing is clear is the GOP listen to the people...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: It could be that a calculation was made that even though most Americans oppose overturning Roe, they wouldn’t vote based on this while pro life voters would. I think the level of support depends on how the question is phrased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Ossoff in Georgia said he wouldn't vote for any judge who would overturn Roe v Wade. And that's Georgia. I'm confused by the tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 http://www.houstonchronicle.com//apple-touch-icon-144x144-precomposed.png Texas shatters voter registration records again as election draws closer WWW.HOUSTONCHRONICLE.COM <p>Texas now has 16.6 million voters, an increase of more than 400,000 since March. And since 2016, Texas has added 1.5 million voters to its rolls.</p> It certainly isn't going to hurt! Or maybe it will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: Ossoff in Georgia said he wouldn't vote for any judge who would overturn Roe v Wade. And that's Georgia. I'm confused by the tweet. Ossof: will you overturn roe? Whoever: no of course not *winks* Roe gone Ossof: 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Ossof: will you overturn roe? Whoever: no of course not *winks* Roe gone Ossof: 🤷♂️ What are we basing this off of? Democrats have put many pro-Roe judges into positions across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chakoo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Don't worry guys, nothing fishy is going to happen this election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Good thing SCOTUS will surely promptly slap this down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 The Biden campaign bought the domain KeepAmericaGreat.com to highlight the president's failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 So the whole, "Joe has dementia!" angle that the Trump family is pushing is a strategy his advisors are worried about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: So the whole, "Joe has dementia!" angle that the Trump family is pushing is a strategy his advisors are worried about. Counter-point: a single slip-up from Joe will now be pushed on every pro-Trump news organization and be all over social media, while ignoring any idiocy from Trump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Some good numbers for Trump in Florida and Arizona from WaPo: These do have an R+5 turnout model (Kelly is up by 1 on McSally in this one). But that's not impossible. At the same time, St Pete Polls released a Florida poll as well with good Biden numbers and a big sample size (haven't seen crosstabs): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Spork3245 said: Counter-point: a single slip-up from Joe will now be pushed on every pro-Trump news organization and be all over social media, while ignoring any idiocy from Trump. I mean, they tried to use the fact that he read off a script for the VP Harris announcement as a sign of dementia... you know, because people being organized and prepping for announcements is somehow a sign of dementia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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