CitizenVectron Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Haha, I think I read it the way Jason seemed to which is that they cancelled your appointment because you called today, but you meant they cancelled the appointment already based on your age, not as punishment for calling. Ah, haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Getting Team Pfizer™ at 1:48pm today. I left my name last week at a pharmacy that was doing a pilot project (right now only the government is giving vaccines here), but never heard back. This morning I called and asked if I was still eligible, and they said since I called before my group (educational workers) was up, my reservation was cancelled. However, they just called me and said I was set for today...so yay! They cancelled because you dared to call and inquire about it? EDIT: Oh I see it's been addressed already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: Haha, I think I read it the way Jason seemed to which is that they cancelled your appointment because you called today, but you meant they cancelled the appointment already based on your age, not as punishment for calling. Yes that's what I was taking it as. I was like, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Got the shot! Now once my wife gets hers, I will feel a weight off my shoulders. It's dumb that I got mine before she got hers. Her immune system is below low-normal, but because she hasn't been on immunosuppressants for two years, she doesn't qualify as "extremely vulnerable." But her therapy (effectively chemo) wiped it out and now, even two years later, it's not back to normal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 With Ontario opening up vaccines to all adults by the end of May, I wonder when I'll be able to get my second shot of I'm able to get an appointment for my first right away. My girlfriend got her first shot last month, but won't get her second until July 4th. I hope I don't have to wait as long as four months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 More than 101 million Americans are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, CDC says WWW.CBSNEWS.COM Over 43% have received at least one dose, and the average daily case count is down 16%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Brick said: With Ontario opening up vaccines to all adults by the end of May, I wonder when I'll be able to get my second shot of I'm able to get an appointment for my first right away. My girlfriend got her first shot last month, but won't get her second until July 4th. I hope I don't have to wait as long as four months. Supply ramps up massively in June: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I’m bewildered by the US still having such dumb travel restriction policy for Covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Looks like Canada will have second doses for everyone by end of July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 If there's one country whose overall demographic trends simply cannot support a significant number of "excess deaths", it's this one: Russia records more than 400,000 excess deaths during pandemic -Reuters calculations WWW.REUTERS.COM Russia recorded more than 400,000 excess deaths from last April to this March during the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Reuters calculations based on data from the state statistics agency published on Friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Story checks out Demographics of Russia - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Alberta is the Alabama of Canada. Or maybe Florida. Either way it's full of regressives. AB has double the cases per capita of anywhere else in Canada. And their ultra right-wing government doesn't care. Hell, half of the cabinet travelled out of Canada for Christmas holidays when it wasn't allowed. Ford is a moron, but Kenney is evil incarnate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 My wife's best friend's sister just passed away from COVID this morning. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, GeneticBlueprint said: My wife's best friend's sister just passed away from COVID this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 This is really great news as it means we probably only need to get to around 60% to see the numbers completely fall off the face of the earth in the US. That is very doable before ever having to get into the “don’t want it” group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, sblfilms said: This is really great news as it means we probably only need to get to around 60% to see the numbers completely fall off the face of the earth in the US. That is very doable before ever having to get into the “don’t want it” group. PA has reached the thresholds of 50% partially vaccinated, and 33% fully. Numbers are dropping, but still above what they were in early March. Maybe by Memorial Day we'll be down to last-summer low levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Canada Will Require Using A Vaccine Passport For Entry WWW.FORBES.COM Our neighbor to the north is preparing to jump on the vaccine-passport bandwagaon, joining a slew of countries that require digital health certification. Should be pretty standard in the western hemisphere, I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Israel has nearly thwarted Covid with less than 60% vaccinated. This is really great news for all nations as it means we can beat this thing much more rapidly than some assumed, with Fauci and others suggesting we may need 80% vaccinated to go back to normal. The scientists who made these vaccines should win the Nobel in medicine for next 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 11 hours ago, sblfilms said: This is really great news as it means we probably only need to get to around 60% to see the numbers completely fall off the face of the earth in the US. That is very doable before ever having to get into the “don’t want it” group. They have seen their numbers drop dramatically, but it hasn't gone away. The Israel death/infection rate is still hovering around where Canada/UK/Germany/France/etc. were in June/July/August of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: They have seen their numbers drop dramatically, but it hasn't gone away. The Israel death/infection rate is still hovering around where Canada/UK/Germany/France/etc. were in June/July/August of last year. Their 7 day average of new cases continues to drop in half roughy every 2 weeks. They will be on track to have under 20 new cases a day in mid June, and will likely see no deaths by that time as well. Who cares where those countries were in the middle of last year pre-vaccine? Completely irrelevant tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I saw that doctor's tweet on my Twitter timeline and I thought it was weird that he chose 5 neighboring US states to make his point ignoring the role seasonality plays in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Their 7 day average of new cases continues to drop in half roughy every 2 weeks. They will be on track to have under 20 new cases a day in mid June, and will likely see no deaths by that time as well. Who cares where those countries were in the middle of last year pre-vaccine? Completely irrelevant tbh. Well, it could matter if the drop in cases is seasonal (as was the case in Canada/UK/Germany/etc last summer. It doesn't appear that way, but we can't completely rule it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just now, sblfilms said: Their 7 day average of new cases continues to drop in half roughy every 2 weeks. They will be on track to have under 20 new cases a day in mid June, and will likely see no deaths by that time as well. Who cares where those countries were in the middle of last year pre-vaccine? Completely irrelevant tbh. It provides context for the level of their numbers. Their numbers are low when compared to the large waves we are seeing now, but certainly not close to going away. While I've heard some doctors talk about the virus going away at those levels, I've heard many infectious disease experts express the exact opposite opinion. Particularly with the risk of new variants making Covid more infectious -- and eventually making the current vaccines less effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 It’s not seasonality The media conditioning to continue he thinking the worst is warping the quite obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 @AbsolutSurgenmy apologies for the last post. That last bit was a little to terse. I’ve but up all night building a screen at one of the drive ins and 35 year old me just isn’t built for all nighters anymore 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Seychelles has 66% fully vaccinated and has roughly doubled it's per million case amount since hitting 50% to about ~930 cases per million today. It's a small population so who knows what inferences you can draw here just thought this was interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s not seasonality The media conditioning to continue he thinking the worst is warping the quite obvious It's not all seasonality* It's also not all vaccinations. There is an interplay between the two that we do not fully understand yet (plus other variables too). The true test will be in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Seychelles has 66% fully vaccinated and has roughly doubled it's per million case amount since hitting 50% to about ~930 cases per million today. It's a small population so who knows what inferences you can draw here just thought this was interesting Despite large vaccination rates, they have comparatively small infection derived immunity. They had almost no measurable infections until January 2021! Same reason a place like New Zealand will probably need to be in that 80%+ range to achieve the same level of immunity that countries like the US and UK can hit with 60-65% vaccinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Joe said: It's not all seasonality* It's also not all vaccinations. There is an interplay between the two that we do not fully understand yet (plus other variables too). The true test will be in the winter. It’s not seasonality leading to much more dramatic drops in the places that have higher vaccination rates. The trend is so consistent there really is no reason to downplay the significance high vaccination rates are quite obviously playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s not seasonality leading to much more dramatic drops in the places that have higher vaccination rates. The trend is so consistent there really is no reason to downplay the significance high vaccination rates are quite obviously playing. Look at the drops at the end of April 2020 in states like Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey. Not trying to be a debbie downer, fam, but seasonality's role can't be ignored here! I'm not saying this is all seasonality though or even majority seasonality; just that it has a significant role in what is currently happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Joe said: Look at the drops at the end of April 2020 in states like Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey. Not trying to be a debbie downer, fam, but seasonality's role can't be ignored here! I'm not saying this is all seasonality though or even majority seasonality; just that it has a significant role in what is currently happening. You are comparing things that aren’t actually comparable. There is a masssssive difference in the seeding of the virus in April 2021 compared to April 2020. This is what the seasonality arguments completely ignore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Someone who used to work for me who has family back in India had his family ravaged by it recently. “Only” his father passed away, which is an odd thing to say except for the fact that his father, mother, all his aunts and uncles, and more, all came down with it and all of them ended up hospitalized. It’s awful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: You are comparing things that aren’t actually comparable. There is a masssssive difference in the seeding of the virus in April 2021 compared to April 2020. This is what the seasonality arguments completely ignore! Fair! The Rt in NJ is below .5 now, which is just unbelievably low. Just sayin that seasonality has a significant role in all this that we do not fully understand yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: It’s not seasonality leading to much more dramatic drops in the places that have higher vaccination rates. The trend is so consistent there really is no reason to downplay the significance high vaccination rates are quite obviously playing. You're absolutely right -- vaccination plays a huge role. And, I don't think anyone has yet demonstrated seasonality plays a role in Covid waves. However, infectious disease experts admit they don't know why some areas have been hit much harder than others. They cannot explain why Minnesota and Michigan were hit so hard by B.117, while most other states weren't. Vaccination rates don't seem to be the only factor. Michael Olsterholm has a good science based podcast devoted to COVID -- he can ramble a bit, but in last week's episode he discussed some of these issues with some level of depth (interesting part starts at ~9:30 mark). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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