RedSoxFan9 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Quote Nate Silver tell us Joe Biden’s inconsistent political beliefs are, in fact, a benefit. They’re “his calling card” and evidence he “reads the room pretty well”. Venality, we are told, is “a normal and often successful [mode] for a politician.” Insurgent progressive groups like Justice Democrats shouldn’t call Biden out of touch with the base because, Silver tell us, “only 26 of the 79 candidates it endorsed last year won their primaries, and only 7 of those went on to win the general election.” On Twitter and his in columns, high-status pundit Nate Silver, has made a career reporting on the polls and insisting he’s just a dispassionate, non-ideological conduit of Cold Hard Facts, just channeling the holy word of data. Empirical journalism, he calls it. But this schtick, however, is very ideological - a reactionary worldview that prioritizes describing the world, rather than changing it. For Silver - and data-fetishists like him - politics is a sport to be gamed, rather than a mechanism for improving people’s lives. Enjoy 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Bernie wouldn’t have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 Transcript: https://link.medium.com/i0R3a6zE5Z Quote Adam: To pull this off Silver has perfected what one Twitter account, @InternetHippo, refers to as “Pundit Brain”, whereby one forgoes fighting for things and rests on simply describing the world in a reductionist and oftentimes bleek manner. The main feature of Pundit Brain — something we’ve talked about on the show a lot which we call The Normative-Descriptive Shuffle — which is a rhetorical trick used effectively by Silver whereby conversations about values and policy and what is good in society are, without the reader really noticing, shifted to discussions about quote “just the way things are” in a world-weary savvy manner. Nima: In this view, nothing is really worth fighting for on first principles, politicians should simply listen to the polls and adopt policies that reflect what is generally popular and uncontroversial. The goal of this particular rhetorical trick, and the spread of Pundit Brain in general, is inherently reactionary. By prioritizing a description of the world, rather than attempts to change it, politics becomes a pseudoscience, a sport to be gamed rather than a mechanism for improving people’s lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: bleek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 dataman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I love the people pretending to be upset by that. Candidate X has 8 white supporters and 2 minority supporters. 20% of his support is minority. The next time, he has 4 supporters, 2 white, 2 minority. He now has 50% minority support. ??? INROADS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: I love the people pretending to be upset by that. Candidate X has 8 white supporters and 2 minority supporters. 20% of his support is minority. The next time, he has 4 supporters, 2 white, 2 minority. He now has 50% minority support. ??? INROADS! Going the above example, if 6 white supporters left candidate X’s camp for candidate Y, wouldn’t the criticism that candidate X’s base lacked diversity also then apply to candidate Y? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: Going the above example, if 6 white supporters left candidate X’s camp for candidate Y, wouldn’t the criticism that candidate X’s base lacked diversity also then apply to candidate Y? Sure. But in this example candidate Y's lack of diversity is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 12 hours ago, SilentWorld said: Going the above example, if 6 white supporters left candidate X’s camp for candidate Y, wouldn’t the criticism that candidate X’s base lacked diversity also then apply to candidate Y? Yes, and Warren's support base being mostly white is known and discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295469-nate-silver-gives-gop-donors-a-closed-door-presentation lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295469-nate-silver-gives-gop-donors-a-closed-door-presentation lol What is funny about this? I mean, besides the organization likely paying a massive appearance fee to hear Silver say the same things then that he was saying on twitter for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: What is funny about this? I mean, besides the organization likely paying a massive appearance fee to hear Silver say the same things then that he was saying on twitter for free. They are a the fiscally responsible party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I would let the gop pay me to speak, why not? Some good fees there and taking money from someone I want to have less money is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Anathema- said: I would let the gop pay me to speak, why not? Some good fees there and taking money from someone I want to have less money is good. You just failed the Bernie Bro litmus test. Congratulations, you played yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: You just failed the Bernie Bro litmus test. Congratulations, you played yourself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 You are comparing apples to oranges, you nitwit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I generally like Silver, but I think he has increasingly been doing a lot more standard punditry on his twitter feed. Most 538 articles are still pretty good looks at the data, but his personal twitter is more and more standard pundit thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I generally like Silver, but I think he has increasingly been doing a lot more standard punditry on his twitter feed. Most 538 articles are still pretty good looks at the data, but his personal twitter is more and more standard pundit thinking. He seems pretty bored with politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/24/2019 at 8:41 PM, Kal-El814 said: You just failed the Bernie Bro litmus test. Congratulations, you played yourself. He may have failed, but fortunately what passed is the Brady Bill (despite the fact Bernie voted against it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I still enjoy his actual polling aggregation, but I ignore everything else he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 If only the president had a way to reach everyone in the country in an unfiltered manner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 data man struggling with reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Mayo is centrist in his book, then tried to do the progressive lane, then reverted to how he actually is. https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/03/all-about-pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Nate really needs to make his Twitter account nothing but data. Punditry is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Yeah, I couldnt defend that garbage even if I tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 "Listen, I know that the man who stopped the killer turns out to have actually lied about it and had no involvement, but can't we just let the man have a good day of bragging about stopping the killer he didn't actually stop?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 https://gawker.com/nate-silver-inspired-by-events-in-ferguson-tells-idio-1621363315 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Why you ignoring the tweet he made after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Jose said: Why you ignoring the tweet he made after? He ignores everything that doesn't fit his little world, like that time he defended Tulsi by saying that David Duke endorses people to fuck with them but then never responded with who he actually did that to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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