stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, best3444 said: He isn't racist but just confused. My mom is the ring leader and is delusional about the real world. She has lived in a bubble her entire life and I'm embarrassed by their views. You make great points so I will definitely let him know. It’s okay, everyone is a little racist. My Dad also has political views he’s tricked into by exploiting his racism. But I hate to be the one tell you, if you keep barking up this tree, you will definitely find some good ol fashioned racism at the root of a lot of his core beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, stepee said: It’s okay, everyone is a little racist. My Dad also has political views he’s tricked into by exploiting his racism. But I hate to be the one tell you, if you keep barking up this tree, you will definitely find some good ol fashioned racism at the root of a lot of his core beliefs. Maybe. I try not to engage with him about this stuff but it's all my parents talk about. Like right now he is yaking at me because I read your post to him. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Tell him to touch grass lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, stepee said: It’s okay, everyone is a little racist. My Dad also has political views he’s tricked into by exploiting his racism. But I hate to be the one tell you, if you keep barking up this tree, you will definitely find some good ol fashioned racism at the root of a lot of his core beliefs. This is true white people are trash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, best3444 said: He is speaking about the southern border where hundreds and hundreds of immigrants are walking into the US with no consequences. What kind of consequences should an immigrant face for coming to the united states? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: What kind of consequences should an immigrant face for coming to the united states? No idea? Now he is blaming my mom for his views. He said he isn't conservative or liberal but would like a military leader to be president. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 Now he is saying he wants Vivek Ramaswamy to be president. What are your thoughts on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 All I know is you don’t watch the nightly klan meeting (fox news) every night without turning it off in disgust if you aren’t at least a little racist. I feel that is putting it generously. Or if you have some weird masochistic thing going on like ort. Racism isn’t a gene you inherit. It’s not something you get to decide for yourself if you are or aren’t, either. It’s typically learned behavior. If he’s otherwise a good person and only watches and repeats racist propaganda because he is confused/brainwashed, he’s still racist, it just means maybe there is a chance he could snap out of it and become less racist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 If he backed Trump and especially if he still supports him to this day I actually don’t buy that he wants a military leader or cares about that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, stepee said: All I know is you don’t watch the nightly klan meeting (fox news) every night without turning it off in disgust if you aren’t at least a little racist. I feel that is putting it generously. Or if you have some weird masochistic thing going on like ort. Racism isn’t a gene you inherit. It’s not something you get to decide for yourself if you are or aren’t, either. It’s typically learned behavior. If he’s otherwise a good person and only watches and repeats racist propaganda because he is confused/brainwashed, he’s still racist, it just means maybe there is a chance he could snap out of it and become less racist. He said your racist for saying this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, best3444 said: He said your racist for saying this. I knew he did before you told me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Anyway heading off to hang out in SF by the beautiful ocean warzone, someone else has to argue with your Dad now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: What kind of consequences should an immigrant face for coming to the united states? You spelt refuges seeking asylum wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 What's the thoughts on Vivek Ramaswamy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, stepee said: Anyway heading off to hang out in SF by the beautiful ocean warzone, someone else has to argue with your Dad now Enjoy! Yea, I'm finished with this argument. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, stepee said: Anyway heading off to hang out in SF by the beautiful ocean warzone, someone else has to argue with your Dad now It’s definitely hilarious to me when I hear what the right wing media says about my city, like sure we have issues but we’re way better than your areas by a mile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, best3444 said: What's the thoughts on Vivek Ramaswamy? Typical tech bro that thinks he’s a genius because he found success in a very specific niche but when you listen to his ideas it’s apparent he’s just another kool aid drinker with a bit of charisma but no thoughts of his own. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 One last thing he said then I'll drop this because he is too far gone. He is pissed his taxes are paying for Hunter to live in the white house. Does that even make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, best3444 said: One last thing he said then I'll drop this because he is too far gone. He is pissed his taxes are paying for Hunter to live in the white house. Does that even make sense? All I will say here is let him know that my I love Hunter t-shirt just shipped this morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, stepee said: All I will say here is let him know that my I love Hunter t-shirt just shipped this morning! Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 What are your guys thoughts on Biden not pulling out 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, best3444 said: One last thing he said then I'll drop this because he is too far gone. He is pissed his taxes are paying for Hunter to live in the white house. Does that even make sense? No it doesn't make sense, he lives in Malibu, and secret service is renting a place next to him, they do this for all presidents families. The best part is having not heard this one before, looking it up and of course finding it started with some conservative op-ed just claiming he lived in the WH because he went to camp David 2 weekends in a row with his father, some chud says something and the rest parroting it till all of them have said it and essentially becomes reality to conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, PaladinSolo said: No it doesn't make sense, he lives in Malibu, and secret service is renting a place next to him, they do this for all presidents families. Im trying to get ready here but man yeah it was so stupid now I can’t get it out of my mind. Like, if you are mad about wasting tax dollars on Huhter…what the fuck do you think the Republican House is doing lol - like that’s actually literally wasting tax dollars on him for a charge nobody cares about that they could do for way cheaper without the theatrics. And then the fact that is plainly factually incorrect is bad too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: What are your guys thoughts on Biden not pulling out Another thing I have in common with hunter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 Thanks a lot for keeping this civil because I know it's absolutely batshit crazy what he thinks. I have enough information on this subject to feel as though I was educated on this and feel better. I am finishing speaking with my dad for the rest of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Afghanistan: Evacuating from an airport in the middle of a dense city was insane. We should have kept Bagram and figured out how to get people out from there. Border: The border between Gaza and Egypt is tiny, less than 8 miles long. One side is controlled by the Israeli Army, the other by the Egyptian Army, neither likes the Palestinians. They can't control that border to stop the smuggling of weapons into Gaza. The idea we can control the US Mexican border, which is 2,000 miles long, is fantasy. Especially when the cartels are funded by the American drug addict. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 The border is just a dumb topic, majority of the people crossing turn themselves in and claim asylum, and most smuggling happens at border crossing points, most conservatives seem to think its all tunnels and hundreds of people crossing in the cover of darkness and scattering, lol. Basically the entire issue of "The Border" can't be solved at the border, but back in the countries of origin, and the drug issues here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 People smuggle in drugs on jet skis and boats. It's not just on land and ocean drugs can come in from any country to any state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Especially when the cartels are funded by the American drug addict. And armed by guns Americans "lost'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Plus more drugs probably come in from the Canadian border. Have you seen @silentbob's grow op? He's got more weed than Colorado! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: What kind of consequences should an immigrant face for coming to the united states? A mass shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Regarding inflation, you can tell your dad that the US has the lowest inflation amount G7 nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, outsida said: Regarding inflation, you can tell your dad that the US has the lowest inflation amount G7 nations. Not like there were any major world events over the last few years though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stepee Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 10 hours ago, TUFKAK said: It’s definitely hilarious to me when I hear what the right wing media says about my city, like sure we have issues but we’re way better than your areas by a mile. Was an absolutely beautiful day today down by the piers/wharf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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