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1 minute ago, Ominous said:

 

@stepee's injury does not make Satan's sidewalk any less boring. 

 

But it does make running outside for exercise not an option! And there’s also a million other things I dislike about doing exercise outside and the fact that it’s just not good for you. 
 

Then again, I never found running to be exactly “exciting” before the injury either. You just listen to music and do your thing idk, the point is exercise not to be entertained.

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43 minutes ago, stepee said:

 

But it does make running outside for exercise not an option! And there’s also a million other things I dislike about doing exercise outside and the fact that it’s just not good for you. 
 

Then again, I never found running to be exactly “exciting” before the injury either. You just listen to music and do your thing idk, the point is exercise not to be entertained.

Running is bliss. Fresh air is great. 

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I get plenty of fresh air when I’m outside doing things besides prematurely destroying my body with high impact exercise! But, it doesn’t matter, because I didn’t have the option of running and walking for exercise takes forever to get the same benefit and this is so much easier on my feet.

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2 hours ago, stepee said:

I get plenty of fresh air when I’m outside doing things besides prematurely destroying my body with high impact exercise! But, it doesn’t matter, because I didn’t have the option of running and walking for exercise takes forever to get the same benefit and this is so much easier on my feet.

 

Can't speak to your experience and accident, but running being bad for you is...not actually all it's cracked up to be.
 

WWW.NM.ORG

Northwestern Medicine orthopaedic physicians discuss common ailments that affect runners, including iliotibial syndrome and patellofemoral syndrome, and how to treat them.

 

WWW.NBCNEWS.COM

Many doctors see osteoarthritis as a “wear-and-tear” condition, but a large survey among long-distance runners found no increased knee or hip risks.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Ominous said:

 

Can't speak to your experience and accident, but running being bad for you is...not actually all it's cracked up to be.
 

WWW.NM.ORG

Northwestern Medicine orthopaedic physicians discuss common ailments that affect runners, including iliotibial syndrome and patellofemoral syndrome, and how to treat them.

 

WWW.NBCNEWS.COM

Many doctors see osteoarthritis as a “wear-and-tear” condition, but a large survey among long-distance runners found no increased knee or hip risks.

 

 

 

Well besides like…all the other evidence that it is at the very least not as good for you as lower impact exercise, the fact that I didn’t get a treadmill to begin with and got something that does a full body workout in a way that running itself does not, and the fact that my leg is no longer capable of bending in a position for a normal running stride, or how dangerous it would be for me to run outside due to the drop foot condition from the accident, how much more dangerous that would be once it starts raining, how terrible exercising in the heat with the sun on you is, and the sheer convenience of not having to even get dressed let alone leave my house to do my exercise, and just that I personally fucking hate running outside and don’t find it fun at all and find being able to watch tv much more entertaining than running around a park where I once was ran over, I feel pretty foolish for getting an elliptical instead of just jogging outside. 

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56 minutes ago, Ominous said:

Hug it out, and yea stationary exercise is still boring. I could never do it. :shrug:
I'd rather play games on Xbox Series S on a 720p TV than use my exercise bike or use a treadmill / elliptical machine for more than 30 minutes. 

I’d rather play a PS1 on a black and white television than exercise. 

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6 minutes ago, gamer.tv said:

I wish I lived in a world where swimming pools were 24/7 (with a life guard) because that’s the ultimate. Sadly they’re only open for the exact hours I’m working.

No 24/7 gyms there? My primary gym has a pool you can use at 3am if you want.

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2 hours ago, TUFKAK said:

No 24/7 gyms there? My primary gym has a pool you can use at 3am if you want.


There are but they’re solely free weights and fitness equipment. There’s two pools near me and they open at 6am and close at around 8pm - with only very limited free swimming time.

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So I know I’m still a beginner but damn it’s crazy to me just how much minor changes in form can affect how your body handles weight. Like just adjusting the width of my grip on the bench but just like an inch or two changes how focused the workout is on my chest vs triceps 

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11 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

So I know I’m still a beginner but damn it’s crazy to me just how much minor changes in form can affect how your body handles weight. Like just adjusting the width of my grip on the bench but just like an inch or two changes how focused the workout is on my chest vs triceps 

Think about in relation to levers. The further the load is away from the pivot the more force needs be applied to move the load. 
 

in bodybuilding we call it “hitting the muscle from all angles” which doesn’t just mean different exercises but different hand/foot placement as it massively changes the way the load is moved.

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On 9/17/2023 at 4:50 PM, stepee said:

 

Well besides like…all the other evidence that it is at the very least not as good for you as lower impact exercise, the fact that I didn’t get a treadmill to begin with and got something that does a full body workout in a way that running itself does not, and the fact that my leg is no longer capable of bending in a position for a normal running stride, or how dangerous it would be for me to run outside due to the drop foot condition from the accident, how much more dangerous that would be once it starts raining, how terrible exercising in the heat with the sun on you is, and the sheer convenience of not having to even get dressed let alone leave my house to do my exercise, and just that I personally fucking hate running outside and don’t find it fun at all and find being able to watch tv much more entertaining than running around a park where I once was ran over, I feel pretty foolish for getting an elliptical instead of just jogging outside. 

 

On 9/17/2023 at 4:52 PM, Ominous said:

Hug it out, and yea stationary exercise is still boring. I could never do it. :shrug:
I'd rather play games on Xbox Series S on a 720p TV than use my exercise bike or use a treadmill / elliptical machine for more than 30 minutes. 

 

I'm an avid runner and (not avid) physical therapist, and I have to say there's a lot of misinformation and bad info out there about running, not only from non-runners but a lot of bullshit accepted by runners as well. 

 

Like so many things, something being "bad" or "good" for you comes with so many caveats and things you have to consider that it's tough to speak to in general terms. 

 

Stepee it sounds like you have a good understanding of your body and it's a bit cliche but the best exercise is the exercise you'll actually do. 

 

But yeah just to voice some pet peeves of mine, like I'll have overweight people fresh off their 4th knee surgery lecture me as I am supposedly treating them professionally tell me that running is hard on your knees or will wear them out or whatever... and I have to lightly push back and try to steer the conversation back to hey can you literally do this extremely simple exercise that is like 4 steps away from just doing a basic squat? 

 

Or like the running world is predisposed to falling for chicanery like for a while it was the barefoot trend, I feel like the zone 2 hype recently has just gone off the rails to some degree, etc. 

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23 minutes ago, Paperclyp said:

 

 

I'm an avid runner and (not avid) physical therapist, and I have to say there's a lot of misinformation and bad info out there about running, not only from non-runners but a lot of bullshit accepted by runners as well. 

 

Like so many things, something being "bad" or "good" for you comes with so many caveats and things you have to consider that it's tough to speak to in general terms. 

 

Stepee it sounds like you have a good understanding of your body and it's a bit cliche but the best exercise is the exercise you'll actually do. 

 

But yeah just to voice some pet peeves of mine, like I'll have overweight people fresh off their 4th knee surgery lecture me as I am supposedly treating them professionally tell me that running is hard on your knees or will wear them out or whatever... and I have to lightly push back and try to steer the conversation back to hey can you literally do this extremely simple exercise that is like 4 steps away from just doing a basic squat? 

 

Or like the running world is predisposed to falling for chicanery like for a while it was the barefoot trend, I feel like the zone 2 hype recently has just gone off the rails to some degree, etc. 

 

Yeah that all makes sense. I was mostly just ribbing Ominous because he was being ridiculous since it’s not even the same exercise and I can’t run normally any more!

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On 9/18/2023 at 9:08 PM, Paperclyp said:

 

 

I'm an avid runner 

 

Or like the running world is predisposed to falling for chicanery like for a while it was the barefoot trend, I feel like the zone 2 hype recently has just gone off the rails to some degree, etc. 

I'm team no stretch here, but think the zone 2 stuff is just effective for people that are typically over training. RSD 27363....cool story, when can you rest and recover doing that? If you don't push yourself you won't really grow. 

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1 hour ago, Ominous said:

I'm team no stretch here, but think the zone 2 stuff is just effective for people that are typically over training. RSD 27363....cool story, when can you rest and recover doing that? If you don't push yourself you won't really grow. 

 

That's probably a good summary in a nutshell. I have recently been experimenting with zone 2 because I probably am one of those who chronically over trains for my running. And I have been really enjoying it actually. When you get into the proposed science behind it it gets a little bit too specific / prescriptive I guess for my liking, like trying to maximize your mitochondria and whatnot, and then the guys who are really pushing it are just very prescriptive. Like this is what you must do. 

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