osxmatt Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 What the hell was Warren’s strategy tonight? There isn’t a poll that has her as the preferred progressive to Bernie, and she came in 3rd in her own state, to a guy who didn’t even come to MA. I support Elizabeth Warren, but tonight was a disaster for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Regarding California: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Jose said: Oh my fuck, the comment tweets are so bad. Oh shit... well that answers my question about Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Except until the last 48 hours Biden wasn't even expected to pass the 15% threshold. Still will be a good thing for Bernie. Given the rest of the night, and the early vote for Sanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Before I go to bed, just somebody give me some reason, ANY reason, to be optimistic about November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Republicans, but I think we can see where the Crimson Tide vote went: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, marioandsonic said: Before I go to bed, just somebody give me some reason, ANY reason, to be optimistic about November. Democratic turnout is up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I think what happened is people were thinking of "Bernie" instead of "Sanders" so they see "Biden" and think Bernie and vote for Biden instead of Bernie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: Democratic turnout is up? By how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Republicans, but I think we can see where the Crimson Tide vote went: What are the runoff rules in Alabama? Within 10k votes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 My thoughts on Bernie from 2015 to 2019 are pretty well known here, and even my current support trends toward pragmatism (I will vote blue no matter what), but the glee with which some of you view these results is rather disheartening. There is a lot to be said about the feasibility or efficacy of Bernie's policies - and I do not discredit any of those issues - but we need someone who will fight. The votes for M4A may not exist in Congress, and the fiscal machinations to make it possible may never come to pass, but consider stories like this (read the full thread): I cannot, in good consciousness, read stories like that and do or think anything other than 'we need someone who will dedicate every fiber of their being for these people'. I do not see that in Joe Biden. I see in Sanders an opportunity to bring the biggest voice in government to working class people in a way it never has before, and it hurts me on a fundamental level that it may not come to pass. There is nothing celebratory about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, marioandsonic said: By how much? By a LOT in many states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, sblfilms said: By a LOT in many states And i assume higher voter turnout in primaries correlates with higher voter turnout in the general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Chris- said: My thoughts on Bernie from 2015 to 2019 are pretty well known here, and even my current support trends toward pragmatism (I will vote blue no matter what), but the glee with which some of you view these results is rather disheartening. There is a lot to be said about the feasibility or efficacy of Bernie's policies - and I do not discredit any of those issues - but we need someone who will fight. The votes for M4A may not exist in Congress, and the fiscal machinations to make it possible may never come to pass, but consider stories like this (read the full thread): I cannot, in good consciousness, read stories like that and do or think anything other than 'we need someone who will dedicate every fiber of their being for these people'. I do not see that in Joe Biden. I see in Sanders an opportunity to bring the biggest voice in government to working class people in a way it never has before, and it hurts me on a fundamental level that it may not come to pass. There is nothing celebratory about that. In case any part of this is directed at me... I was in the tank for Warren, my guy. The likely outcome of tonight’s results... I get no kick from this champagne. She couldn’t carry a sack lunch tonight, let alone her state which depresses me in more ways than one. The only upside is that way more people seem to be showing up to vote for Joe fucking Biden, of all people, tonight, and I hope they show up and vote blue again this fall. That and the genuine, continued confusion regarding how anyone could possibly have been surprised, even for a second, that the guy who hangs his hat on being an outsider, non-establishment candidate wasn’t supported by insider, establishment Democrats... AGAIN. I’d happily vote for Bernie come November but come the fuck on, now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: regarding how anyone could possibly have been surprised, even for a second, that the guy who hangs his hat on being an outsider, non-establishment candidate wasn’t supported by insider, establishment Democrats... AGAIN. There's not a single person surprised by this, more like grim acceptance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 So... what's going on in Texas? It's a horse race out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: And i assume higher voter turnout in primaries correlates with higher voter turnout in the general? It certainly lends itself towards higher GE turnout. And given that the race really will turn on just a handful of states, seeing a solid uptick there is a positive sign for the Dems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: So... what's going on in Texas? It's a horse race out there. Texas is being Texas. I’ve been saying it for years now that our Dems are not as liberal as other states. Doesn’t shock me at all the the moderate candidates are >50% of the vote share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Biden just took the lead in Texas after being down all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Biden is shocking in Texas in the border counties too, not winning any but being within a handful of percentage points in a lot. Nobody would have guessed that after the early state contests where Sanders performed very well with the Latino vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It certainly lends itself towards higher GE turnout. And given that the race really will turn on just a handful of states, seeing a solid uptick there is a positive sign for the Dems. I'll believe it when I see it, but that's something at least. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: So... what's going on in Texas? It's a horse race out there. @sblfilms old black side of the family is FUCKING US!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Why don't minorities know what's good for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, johnny said: @sblfilms old black side of the family is FUCKING US!!! Granny text me earlier and she is real excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 44 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Before I go to bed, just somebody give me some reason, ANY reason, to be optimistic about November. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Granny text me earlier and she is real excited What part of Texas they in? I have an Uncle and cousins in Dallas. Just now, CitizenVectron said: Oh yeah she gotta GO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: What part of Texas they in? I have an Uncle and cousins in Dallas. She lives in Houston, in the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Give it all to Joe, nothing more to see here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: That would absolutely not happen. She could do that to Bloomberg because he's got the personality and presence of a wet paper towel. The Imbecile would steamroll her hard -- not on actual issues -- but on his sheer bluster alone. All he'd have to say is "Pocahontas" and that would throw her off totally. You don't "debate" him on issues - you have to literally wallow in the muck and grime with him. So...Avenatti 2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: Eagerly awaiting more mental gymnastics to explain how the guy who couldn’t beat HRC or Biden could have beaten Trump... somehow... Definitely makes sense to judge this based on who won states the Democrats are never winning in the general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Give it all to Joe, nothing more to see here Is it fucked up that my first reaction to that was "She's still alive?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, sblfilms said: She lives in Houston, in the city. A Houston Rockets fan. This makes a lot of sense now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 It's absolutely criminal that there are lines in California at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Biden spent NO MONEY in Texas either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: It's absolutely criminal that there are lines in California at all. I think it depends on where you are... Several of my friends said that they were in and out in Los Angeles today. I wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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