Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha. The sole intent of this "plan" is to make the inevitable Palestinian rejection seem "unreasonable". Not that I expect the "liberals" of the Democratic Party leadership to object strenuously. Hell, I bet Schumer is beating himself off to this abomination. Quote
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 It’s a shame we ran off DVD, watching the whiplash between his adoration of Trump’s policy in Iran and his convulsive rage at this would be truly fascinating... Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: It’s a shame we ran off DVD, watching the whiplash between his adoration of Trump’s policy in Iran and his convulsive rage at this would be truly fascinating... What rage?!? This is EXACTLY what the Israelis want: a plan specifically designed to paint the Palestinians into a corner. Quote
Ghost_MH Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 So Palestine gets to be a semi-autonomous territory if they change their borders to cede land to Israel and restructure their government to Israel's liking? And the whole semi-autonomous territory is only a maybe three years down the line, assuming that Israel approves of all their government changes. If they don't, too bad, Israel gets to keep the land regardless? Am I missing something here? Otherwise, damn me, what a deal. Quote
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: What rage?!? This is EXACTLY what the Israelis want: a plan specifically designed to paint the Palestinians into a corner. And it gives formal control/tacitly accepts Israeli West Bank policy of them just gobbling up land/pushing out Palestinians Quote
osxmatt Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 This is comical. I don't know why I expected anything different. Quote
TwinIon Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 The deal maker President in action. Not that Trump could ever get the Palestinians to sit down at a table with him. At the same time this is happening, Netanyahu withdrew his request for immunity on corruption charges. Hours later Israel's attorney general filed criminal indictments against Netanyahu. So you've got a US President going through an impeachment trial and an Israeli PM in a criminal corruption case, both facing elections this year. What group could possibly be more ready to finally solve Middle East peace? Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Those two Palestinian areas to the south of Gaza along the Egyptian border are definitely land swaps for territory in the West Bank because that area of the Negev Desert is currently actual Israeli territory. Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Jordan has 2.2 million registered Palestinian refugees which is about 22% of its population so naturally they would call this "plan" a non-starter. Quote
stepee Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Congratulations, you won a free house! Well actually it’s just one of the rooms. And you’re really just renting it from me and also I might need to use some of the space in that room for storage later. 1 3 Quote
finaljedi Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Masterful deal making from Trump and peerless strategy from Kushner... Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Israeli government plans to vote Sunday on annexing 30 percent of the occupied West Bank, official saysI Quote Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu plans to move forward with annexing the Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank and the parts of the Jordan Valley addressed in the just-released Trump peace plan on Sunday, according to a government official with knowledge of the matter. The move comes after the announcement of Trump’s plan, which would allow Israel to extend sovereignty over the settlements,bringing them into Israel proper, as well as the Jordan Valley extending north from the Dead Sea. 1 Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 The deal is better than nothing, but the Palestinian leaders will choose no deal because it is not they who suffer. Quote
osxmatt Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 3 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: Nobody knew Middle East peace could be this easy! Quote
mrbiggsly Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Is there a discernable difference between this deal and what Israel wants? Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, mrbiggsly said: Is there a discernable difference between this deal and what Israel wants? None whatsoever. Quote
Joe Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Oh my fuck, he's even worse when he talks. Quote
stepee Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 i don’t condone any kind of physical violence towards anyone but OH MY GOD HOW GOOD WOULD IT FEEL TO PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE Quote
stepee Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 i firmly believe that if there is a heaven there is a boxing gym there that is just a room filled with husks of kushner and matt gaetz Quote
osxmatt Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 The whole interview is here. A few of my favorite quotes. "I've studied this very closely for the last 3 years" "Maybe they'll [Palestinians] come to the table and do something rational for once" "Last chance for the Palestinians to finally have a state" Quote
Ghost_MH Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: The deal is better than nothing, but the Palestinian leaders will choose no deal because it is not they who suffer. Please be not serious. No deal is better than this "deal". This isn't even a deal. This is everything Israel wanted short of shipping every Palestinian to Madagascar. Quote
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Please be not serious. No deal is better than this "deal". This isn't even a deal. This is everything Israel wanted short of shipping every Palestinian to Madagascar. He’s serious. And he’ll tell you why soon enough. Can’t wait to read that explanation. Israel really kind of fucking sucks. Quote
stepee Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: He’s serious. And he’ll tell you why soon enough. Can’t wait to read that explanation. Israel really kind of fucking sucks. Im just going to pretend it’s self parody. Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: This is everything Israel wanted short of shipping every Palestinian to Madagascar. Funny that you should mention that... Quote
Guest Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Please be not serious. No deal is better than this "deal". This isn't even a deal. This is everything Israel wanted short of shipping every Palestinian to Madagascar. Because the only other option is the slow decay towards there being no Palestine at all. More of the Arab people in the region will become Israelis over time and enjoy the benefits of living in a liberal democracy. The only way the Palestinians can actually move forward with building a lasting nation is to agree to the terms the Israelis are offering. They have rejected better deals and the deals keep getting worse because the position of Israel keeps getting better. There is no reason to believe the Israeli position won’t continue to improve over that of the Palestinians. But again, the leaders of the Palestinians aren’t the ones suffering due to rejecting every deal offered for decades now, so what do they care? Quote
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