Jason Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Quote Legislative power brokers across the country have long designed district lines in back-room deals that entrenched their control for years, if not decades. But now, Democratic lawmakers in New Jersey are carrying out a power grab in an unusually public fashion: They are seeking to make Republicans a permanent minority by essentially writing gerrymandering into the State Constitution. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/nyregion/redistricting-new-jersey-democrats-republicans.html 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Sigh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, Kal-El814 said: Sigh. something something both sides 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 From what I've heard, it would also let the GOP gerrymandering if they take power. It's a really bad design all-around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 It's the NY Times, so I'd like to take it with a grain of salt. However, it's also New Jersey, so it's probably worse amd will also involve embezzlement of a great deal of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The party in power will do everything to solidify their hold. One party only complains about gerrymandering and other such tactics when they aren't in control. Democrats aren't above it; they just want to be the ones drawing the lines. It's wrong no matter who is doing it. But whatever. It's NJ; I expect nothing less at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Well, well, well, the NYTimes with dogshit reporting again? Why I never! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Remember a time when the NYT wasn’t a bunch of padding you threw out to get to the crossword puzzle? Pepperidge Farm remembers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 So my first reaction was right. Fuck the NYT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Well, well, well, the NYTimes with dogshit reporting again? Why I never! How is this dogshit reporting? The article lists that Murphy opposes it and that it is a ballot measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Ok, not reporting directly, but in headline/tweet summary writing, which is part of reporting. Better title would be "despite opposition from the governor and the national party, some New Jersey Democrats..." Because it more accurately reflects the situation, and doesn't lend itself to ridiculous whataboutism when contrasted to NC, MI, and WI. And just because it's a ballot measure doesn't mean it's right either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Meanwhile, literally just now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 As others have pointed out, the story simply isn't true: The law would give both sides advantages when they are in power. It's flawed for sure, but it doesn't entrench Democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: As others have pointed out, the story simply isn't true: The law would give both sides advantages when they are in power. It's flawed for sure, but it doesn't entrench Democrats. I think everyone understood that fact. However, New Jersey is pretty blue already so entrenching Dekocrats even more will make it very challenging for the GOP to ever get an advantage again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: As others have pointed out, the story simply isn't true: The law would give both sides advantages when they are in power. It's flawed for sure, but it doesn't entrench Democrats. You can't be in power if you are gerrymandered out of existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaynay1 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 maybe they can get some sweet ballot harvesting going on next election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Politicians suck. That hasn't changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LazyPiranha Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 4 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Every time I see this god damned picture I get less upset about the seizing of power and more upset that these dumb motherfuckers don't even understand the concept of a god damned venn diagram. For fuck's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 It's not happening anymore. Crisis averted peeps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Jose said: It's not happening anymore. Crisis averted peeps! Venn Diagrams have been abolished?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jason said: Venn Diagrams have been abolished?!?! Yes, we are now required to use Stick Figures. Sorry, it's the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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