Gaza/Israel Update (04/02): Israeli airstrike kills foreign workers of World Central Kitchen (Chef José Andrés food aid charity)

[Air_Delivery]

I thought it was revenge for the IDF Mosque incident a couple years ago. 

[ort]

The conspiracy theory on this is that Putin is behind the timing of the Hamas assault and is also pulling the strings to keep the house republicans from electing a leader to cause chaos, and weaken our ability to approve emergency military funding, etc and to split americas attention so he can make some sort of move in Ukraine or maybe just to be a dick.

[Air_Delivery]

I don't think its much of a conspiracy that most MAGAs are bought by Russia. 

[TUFKAK]

2 hours ago, Air_Delivery said:

I don't think its much of a conspiracy that most MAGAs are bought by Russia. 

Trailer park country buys trailer park Muricans.

[Spork3245]

3 hours ago, ort said:

The conspiracy theory on this is that Putin is behind the timing of the Hamas assault and is also pulling the strings to keep the house republicans from electing a leader to cause chaos, and weaken our ability to approve emergency military funding, etc and to split americas attention so he can make some sort of move in Ukraine or maybe just to be a dick.

I think you need to stay off comment sections of news articles for a good while.

[Comet]

5 hours ago, ort said:

The conspiracy theory on this is that Putin is behind the timing of the Hamas assault and is also pulling the strings to keep the house republicans from electing a leader to cause chaos, and weaken our ability to approve emergency military funding, etc and to split americas attention so he can make some sort of move in Ukraine or maybe just to be a dick.

The guy getting his ass handed to him by Ukraine and who also almost suffered an unexpected mutiny by a mercenary chef isn’t pulling any secret strings here. 

[Littleronin]

While I don't think Putin is behind it. He is tickled pink about the idea of a reallocation of western weapons going to Ukraine.

[mclumber1]

1 hour ago, Littleronin said:

While I don't think Putin is behind it. He is tickled pink about the idea of a reallocation of western weapons going to Ukraine.

 

And also happy that the GOP infighting has essentially stopped any actual legislation from being passed in Congress.

[Jason]

Instagram sorry for adding 'terrorist' to some Palestinian user bios

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It says it fixed a problem "that briefly caused inappropriate translations" in some Instagram profiles.

 

[ort]

Fox News really isn't going to be happy until we're killing each other in the streets. I mean, maybe that isn't their goal, but they sure are acting like that is their goal.

[silentbob]

41 minutes ago, ort said:

Fox News really isn't going to be happy until we're killing each other in the streets. I mean, maybe that isn't their goal, but they sure are acting like that is their goal.

Well it’s more likely that the Fox demographic would be better prepared to take up arms then say the other side they’d be fighting against

[ort]

A point that is made ALL THE TIME in the comments section where they allow their users to engage openly in fantasies about armed civil war and murdering liberals and minorities.

[TUFKAK]

4 hours ago, silentbob said:

Well it’s more likely that the Fox demographic would be better prepared to take up arms then say the other side they’d be fighting against

This is true but there are liberals who own assault rifles too and in that case nearly all have actual military experience not airsoft cosplay.

[UpvoteShittyTakesOnly]

perverts read comments sections dont change my mind

[TUFKAK]

Incident involving US warship intercepting missiles near Yemen lasted 9 hours | CNN Politics

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A US warship that intercepted drones and missiles near the coast of Yemen on Thursday encountered a larger and more sustained barrage than was previously known, shooting down 4 cruise missiles and 15 drones over a period of 9 hours, according to a US official familiar with the situation.

 

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A US warship that intercepted drones and missiles near the coast of Yemen on Thursday encountered a larger and more sustained barrage than was previously known, shooting down 4 cruise missiles and 15 drones over a period of 9 hours, according to a US official familiar with the situation.

 

The USS Carney, an Arleigh-Burke class destroyer that traversed the Suez Canal heading south on Wednesday, intercepted the missiles and drones as they were heading north along the Red Sea. Their trajectory left little doubt that the projectiles were headed for Israel, the official said, a clearer assessment than the Pentagon’s initial take.

 

A sustained barrage of drones and missiles targeting Israel from far outside the Gaza conflict is one of a series of worrying signs that the war risks escalating beyond the borders of the coastal enclave.

 

 

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Some of the projectiles were traveling at altitudes that made them a potential risk to commercial aviation when they were intercepted, the US official said. The drones and missiles were intercepted with SM-2 surface-to-air missiles launched from the USS Carney.

 

US interceptions of Houthi launches are exceedingly rare, making the timing of this incident, as tensions rise in Israel, more significant. In October 2016, the USS Mason deployed countermeasures to stop an attempted attack in the Red Sea targeting the Navy destroyer and other ships nearby. In response, the US fired sea-launched cruise missiles at Houthi radar facilities in Yemen.

 

On Wednesday, one-way attack drones targeted two different US positions in Iraq, according to US Central Command. One of the attacks resulted in minor injuries. One day later, the At-Tanf garrison in Syria, which houses US and coalition forces, was targeted by two drones, which also caused minor injuries.

 

Early Friday morning in Iraq, two rockets targeted the Baghdad Diplomatic Support Center near the airport, which houses US military, diplomatic and civilian personnel, according to another US defense official. One rocket was intercepted by a counter-rocket system, while the second hit an empty storage facility, the official said. No one was injured as a result of the rocket attack.

 

 

[Jwheel86]

Ike Strike Group is moving to 5th Fleet in the Gulf, will not be joining up the Ford. Army is deploying a THAAD battery and Patriot battalions to the CENTCOM region. 

 

Statement From Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III on Steps to In

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Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III released a statement regarding recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East region.

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

Israel ramps up strikes on Gaza as US advises delaying ground offensive to allow talks on captives

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Israel has ramped up its airstrikes across Gaza, including in areas where civilians have been told to seek refuge.

 

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 Israel ramped up its airstrikes Monday in Gaza, where the death toll was rising rapidly, and the United States advised Israel to delay an expected ground invasion to allow more time to negotiate the release of hostages taken by Hamas militants.

 

A third small aid convoy from Egypt entered Gaza, where the population of 2.3 million has been running out of food, water and medicine under Israel’s two-week seal. Israel was still barring the entry of fuel, and Gaza hospitals say they are struggling to keep generators running to power life-saving medical equipment and incubators for premature babies.

 

Heavy airstrikes demolished buildings across Gaza, including in areas where Palestinians have been told to seek refuge, killing hundreds and sending new waves of wounded into already packed hospitals, according to Palestinian officials and witnesses. After a strike in Gaza City, a woman with blood on her face wept as she clasped the hand of a dead relative. At least three bodies were sprawled on the street, one lying in a gray stream of water.

 

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More than 1,400 people in Israel have been killed — mostly civilians slain during the initial Hamas attack. At least 222 people were captured and dragged back to Gaza, including foreigners, the military said Monday, updating a previous figure.

 

More than 5,000 Palestinians, including some 2,000 minors and around 1,100 women, have been killed, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said Monday. That includes the disputed toll from an explosion at a hospital last week. The toll has climbed rapidly in recent days, with the ministry reporting 436 additional deaths in just the last 24 hours.

 

 

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Israel carried out limited ground forays into Gaza, and on Sunday, Hamas said it had destroyed an Israeli tank and two armored bulldozers inside the territory it has ruled since 2007. The Israeli military said a soldier was killed and three others were wounded by an anti-tank missile during a raid inside Gaza.

 

The military said the raid was part of efforts to rescue hostages abducted in the Oct. 7 attack. Hamas hopes to trade the captives for Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

 

 

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On Monday the Palestinian Red Crescent said 20 trucks entered Gaza carrying food, water, medicine and medical supplies, through the Rafah crossing with Egypt, the only way into Gaza not controlled by Israel. It was the third delivery in as many days, each around the same size.

 

An airstrike hit a residential building some 200 meters (yards) from the U.N. headquarters in Rafah on Monday, killing and wounding several people, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene, underscoring the perils of humanitarian operations.

 

Abu Youssef Al-Najjar Hospital, in Rafah, registered 61 deaths since Monday morning, the hospital’s spokesperson said, following a day of intense airstrikes in southern Gaza. With no room in the morgue for the bodies, “more than half of them are lying on the (hospital) ground,” spokesperson Talaat Barghout said.

 

[TUFKAK]

Opinion: Why Egypt won’t open the border to its Palestinian neighbors | CNN

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That Egypt won’t open its border for a humanitarian corridor to let out hundreds of thousands of internally displaced Gazans reflect serious, and legitimate, concerns, write Ghaith al-Omari and David Schenker.

 

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Editor’s Note: Ghaith al-Omari is a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and a former adviser to the Palestinians during permanent-status talks between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization. David Schenker is the director of the Program on Arab Politics at the Washington Institute and a former US assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs.

 

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It’s understandable if Washington, which provides Egypt with over $1 billion per year in military assistance, is frustrated that Cairo isn’t allowing American citizens and other nationals to exit Gaza via the crossing, as Egypt has seemingly made their departure contingent on the entry of aid. It’s also understandable if humanitarian groups are frustrated that Egypt won’t open its border for a humanitarian corridor to let out hundreds of thousands of internally displaced Gazans who are trying to take refuge in the south of the Gaza Strip, which Rafah sits on, as the most intense fighting rages in the north.

 

But Egypt’s positions reflect serious, and legitimate, concerns. First and foremost is the fear of a massive refugee flow if the crossing were opened. A decade after the Syrian civil war started, Egypt claims to host 9 million refugees from different countries, with no horizon of repatriation for most in sight. For Egypt, a deluge of Palestinian refugees would not only pose humanitarian and economic challenges — Egypt is currently experiencing a devastating economic crisis — but also security and political ones.

 

 

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Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, in uncharacteristically explicit remarks, on Wednesday warned that transferring Palestinians into Sinai will turn the peninsula into a launching pad for attacks against Israel, eliciting Israeli reprisals, triggering war between the two countries and upending the longest peace between Israel and any Arab country.

Additionally, the movement of Palestinian refugees out of Gaza would evoke memories of the mass displacement that accompanied the creation of Israel in 1948. Egypt fears that such an eventuality would bring an end to any future prospect of Palestinian-Israeli peace based on a two-state solution, instead bringing a diplomatic void, and inflaming Arab public opinion.

 

This concern is so widely and deeply held in the region that, even as Palestinian civilian casualties mounted after October 7, other Arab countries supported Egypt in its vehement opposition to opening the Sinai for refugees. Indeed, after concluding a tour to several Arab capitals, Secretary of State Antony Blinken told Al-Arabiya TV that he heard “from virtually every … leader that I’ve talked to in the region that that idea is a nonstarter, and so we do not support it.”

 

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Additionally, Egypt has privately held that the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is ultimately Israel’s problem, and that the latter should bear any political or territorial costs of its resolution. During the Trump administration, an American proposal to build infrastructure in Sinai to serve Gaza was roundly rejected by Cairo, part of Egyptian fears that a slippery slope that could draw it into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

 

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Egypt is also concerned that open crossing could allow in Hamas and its sympathizers. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sisi’s most serious domestic political rival. And Egypt has faced Islamist terror in the Sinai Peninsula since the 2011 revolution that toppled the Mubarak regime.

 

[ort]

I like how conservatives try to emulate the left and be all outraged over anti-semitism and freak out over every single little thing anyone says or does... but they are so bad at it though... it's like they are playing a game they really don't even understand. Like they think they understand how it works, but in reality, they are bad faith idiotic dipshits who have no fucking clue about anything beyond trying to drive their stupids shithead dumb fuck moron followers to commit acts of violence because the chaos is good for them.

[TUFKAK]

4 minutes ago, ort said:

I like how conservatives try to emulate the left and be all outraged over anti-semitism and freak out over every single little thing anyone says or does... but they are so bad at it though... it's like they are playing a game they really don't even understand. Like they think they understand how it works, but in reality, they are bad faith idiotic dipshits who have no fucking clue about anything beyond trying to drive their stupids shithead dumb fuck moron followers to commit acts of violence because the chaos is good for them.

They’re this weird combination of anti Semitic (I mean globalist) but pro Israel cause Jesus 

[Spork3245]

Fucking christ

People wanting to pick sides in this and root for them as if they’re sports teams makes me angry and upset in ways I cannot put into words.

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

4 hours ago, Spork3245 said:

Fucking christ

People wanting to pick sides in this and root for them as if they’re sports teams makes me angry and upset in ways I cannot put into words.

There are a number of sociopolitical issues whose moral complexity makes them particularly unsuited for the mindless chauvinism of our ‘hot takes’ culture, and this is definitely one of them.

[UpvoteShittyTakesOnly]

projecting that on the gelman building is next level

[Spork3245]

31 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

There are a number of sociopolitical issues whose moral complexity makes them particularly unsuited for the mindless chauvinism of our ‘hot takes’ culture, and this is definitely one of them.

 

Just now, UpvoteShittyTakesOnly said:

projecting that on the gelman building is next level

Make sure to go to the thread and see the other pics, it was a slide show of text. “Martyrs”. 

[TUFKAK]

1 hour ago, Spork3245 said:

 

Make sure to go to the thread and see the other pics, it was a slide show of text. “Martyrs”. 

Imagine how many more martyrs they’ll get if they drag the US into this.

 

And lol at Israel in quotes. Imma start putting Palestine in quotes.

[Subzwari1987]

A Close Look at Some Key Evidence in the Gaza Hospital Blast - The New York Times

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A widely cited missile video does not shed light on what happened, a Times analysis concludes.

 

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The footage has become a widely cited piece of evidence as Israeli and American officials have made the case that an errant Palestinian rocket malfunctioned in the sky, fell to the ground and caused a deadly explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City.

 

But a detailed visual analysis by The New York Times concludes that the video clip — taken from an Al Jazeera television camera livestreaming on the night of Oct. 17 — shows something else. The missile seen in the video is most likely not what caused the explosion at the hospital. It actually detonated in the sky roughly two miles away, The Times found, and is an unrelated aspect of the fighting that unfolded over the Israeli-Gaza border that night.

 

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The Times’s finding does not answer what actually did cause the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital blast, or who is responsible. The contention by Israeli and American intelligence agencies that a failed Palestinian rocket launch is to blame remains plausible. But the Times analysis does cast doubt on one of the most-publicized pieces of evidence that Israeli officials have used to make their case and complicates the straightforward narrative they have put forth.

 

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Moreover, the crater left from the impact was relatively small, a fact that Israel has cited in arguing that none of its munitions caused the blast, and could be consistent with a number of different munitions. Hamas has not produced a remnant of an Israeli munition or any physical evidence to back up its claim that Israel is responsible

 

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Meanwhile, Israeli officials have pointed to the Al-Jazeera video in media interviews and social media.

 

The Al Jazeera video footage was shared three times by the Israel Defense Forces on X, formerly known as Twitter. In the posts, the Israeli military identified the moving aerial object as a “rocket aimed at Israel” that “misfired and exploded” at nearly the same time as the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital blast. Spokesmen for the

 

Israeli military also explicitly identified this munition as the misfired rocket that caused the explosion in interviews with CNN and the BBC on Oct. 18 and in an interview with India Today on Oct. 19.

 

Numerous media outlets have shown the video footage and several have cited it as evidence that a Palestinian rocket hit the hospital.

But The Times concluded that the missile in the video was never near the hospital. It was launched from Israel, not Gaza, and appears to have exploded above the Israeli-Gaza border, at least two miles away from the hospital.

 

 

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To trace the object in the sky back to Israeli territory, The Times synchronized the Al Jazeera footage with five other videos filmed at the same time, including footage from an Israeli television station, Channel 12, and a CCTV camera in Tel Aviv. These different videos provided a view of the missile from north, south, east and west. Using satellite imagery to triangulate the launch point in those videos, The Times determined that the projectile was fired toward Gaza from near the Israeli town of Nahal Oz shortly before the deadly hospital blast. The findings match the conclusion reached by some online researchers.

 

In addition, the videos show that the projectile in the Al Jazeera footage was launched after the barrage of Palestinian rockets Israeli officials assessed was responsible for the hospital explosion.

 

From 6:59 p.m. on Oct. 17, barrages of Palestinian rockets are fired from two positions southwest and northwest of the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital, the videos show. Flames from the Palestinian rockets are visible in the nighttime sky as their engines propel them northeast toward Israel. More than 25 seconds elapse between the final Palestinian rocket and the hospital explosion.

 

 

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The Times cannot independently identify the type of projectile that was fired from Israel, though it was launched from an area known to have an Iron Dome defense system. The Israeli military says it doesn’t fire Iron Dome interceptors into Gaza, and indeed the missile seen in the video may not have crossed over into Gazan territory. The Israeli military has stated that the Iron Dome did not shoot any interceptors in the questioned time and area.

[TUFKAK]

I’ll trust American intel over the Times.

[Subzwari1987]

1 hour ago, TUFKAK said:

I’ll trust American intel over the Times.

American intel said there were WMDs in Iraq. If there is intel on what really caused the explosion, then we might not know for certain for quite a while. 

[TUFKAK]

12 minutes ago, Subzwari1987 said:

American intel said there were WMDs in Iraq. If there is intel on what really caused the explosion, then we might not know for certain for quite a while. 

American intel said Russia intervened in the 2016 election. Are we only accepting intel that confirms our biases now? There’s a word for that I think.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

12 minutes ago, Subzwari1987 said:

American intel said there were WMDs in Iraq. If there is intel on what really caused the explosion, then we might not know for certain for quite a while. 

 

I can all-but-assure you that we'll never get a "definitive" cause of the explosion, even from an intelligence service.

The most we'll ever receive are assessments that contain language that reflect the degree of uncertainty such as "probable", "likely", "possible", etc.

[TUFKAK]

1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

I can all-but-assure you that we'll never get a "definitive" cause of the explosion, even from an intelligence service.

The most we'll ever receive are assessments that contain language that reflect the degree of uncertainty such as "probable", "likely", "possible", etc.

I've seen the craters left first hand, there is no way what we saw the morning after was high yield, assuming no malfunction that is. You know this too. Assuming it was a standard munition from an American built warplane, no way is that damage from a standard standoff weapon. 

[TUFKAK]

I feel compelled to say this.

Israel is a nation who, at it's core, exists to protect Jews, to prevent another holocaust. People are talking in real politic, ignoring the very human point of this to them, what it felt like to see more Jews killed in a single day since the holocaust, and shocked they want blood. You're either willfully ignorant or commander Data, but even he would be able to intellectually understand. Israel at it's core is a nation of "never again." And those of you who do not understand this fact contribute to this disaster. Even their own Arab brothers turn them away. But Israel is the problem? Egypt would rather watch them die then welcome them in. But Israel is the problem. No other nation in the region will lift a fucking finger, gland to attack embassies and American military assets, but actually helping "Palestine" though. Not only no, but fuck no was their response.

You think fucking Hamas shares our values? I've fought with you all over trans rights, nearly left the boards over it, wonder what they're fucking perspective is on trans people are? Free and fair elections. Will of the people. I know what side I am on, the only democracy in the middle east.

[Uaarkson]

I don’t give a fuck if they’re the only democracy in the Middle East. They brought this shit on themselves 

[TUFKAK]

7 minutes ago, Uaarkson said:

I don’t give a fuck if they’re the only democracy in the Middle East. They brought this shit on themselves 

lol k

Ftr, my sister has a friend who has a daughter, who she shares with a same sex partner. Wonder what Lebanon would have to say about that? How about Egypt? Jordan maybe? Hamas. 

And your mindset is the fucking problem and why this shit is gonna keep happening. 

[UpvoteShittyTakesOnly]

5 minutes ago, Uaarkson said:

I don’t give a fuck if they’re the only democracy in the Middle East. They brought this shit on themselves 

 

primarily through the grave sin of existing