CastletonSnob Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 How would you feel if Nintendo stopped making consoles and put their games on other platforms? I don't know if I could get used to Nintendo games being on PS5 or Series X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 “Gee Mr Limbaugh, it sure is cold here” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I plan on playing all Nintendo games on the Deck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I'd probably be surprised and then the sun will rise the next day and it will feel like a normal day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 more like Nintendo's reaction Nintendo doesn't even pump enough to go 3rd party. Half of the Switch titles are just Wii U titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Nintendo games give me a certain feel. They feel like they should be played on a Nintendo system. But that’s just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'd be disappointed. Say what you will about the power of Nintendo consoles, but I appreciate that they think outside of the box, and I think the industry would lose a valuable innovator when it comes to hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Biggie said: Nintendo games give me a certain feel. They feel like they should be played on a Nintendo system. But that’s just me. They feel like they should be played on a PC, and when they do, they feel amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Sure, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: They feel like they should be played on a PC, and when they do, they feel amazing. Nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Nintendo already has gone 3rd party. Their games are on mobile devices. Hardware that is not their own. *shrugs* Better question: what if Sony went third party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Sony already has games on PC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I would be disappointed simply because it would introduce more risk into their development efforts. The extent to which they are vertically integrated is foundational to their development philosophy (patience, extremely high quality control, a willingness to experiment), and developing in a third party environment would change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bacon said: Sony already has games on PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: Hardware that is not their own as a great man once said. There's a Forza mobile game too so Microsoft is 3rd party too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 THEY ARE ALL THIRD PARTY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 57 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: Better question: what if Sony went third party? Also, the reason this isn't a better question is because of the Nintendo Hardware. Nintendo hardware is weak. Modern games take massive hits when ported to the switch. Hell, last gen games can barely run on the switch. It is amazing how Bethesda and Id got games working on the switch. But I don't see any world where God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, or Uncharted 4 make it onto the Switch. And even if they did they would look subpar. The Witcher 3 already looks like it was ran through YouTube compression and was given the Frame Rate of Ocarina of Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Ten years ago I would have been surprised, but now won’t be really shocked. The industry is changing and even Nintendo will be different in 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Chris- said: extremely high quality control 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jason said: I mean if you want to talk about 25 year old games (or whatever re-release one may be, I don't know the context of this shot) you can I guess, but I can't think of any 1st party release since the Wii that was lousy with bugs, glitches, lack of polish, etc. Even Breath of the Wild was nearly perfect by open-world standards. When they don't rush, their stuff is functionally flawless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Nintendo has been repeatedly putting out shitty re-releases on the Switch and in some cases charging $60 for them. 5 Ways Super Mario 3D All-Stars' Emulation Is Disappointing (& 5 Ways It's Exciting) GAMERANT.COM When Super Mario 3D All-Stars was released, many players were divided when finding that Nintendo used emulation to bring these games to the Switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Third-party as just a floating entity doing whatever with no guidance? Well I'd feel about the same as I do now: that there's no one there to shepherd their very high level of creativity while guiding them away from their decades of incompetence. What I mean by that is: Stuff like Wii? The Switch? Cool shit, even if I'm not personally a fan of either in the long-term. That should continue to be cultivated. But someone needs to help them do better with online play, with porting their old games forward, with making more universal accounts that don't need to be remade every time they launch a new system, etc. (We kind of got the last one recently, yay! Wait, you want a cloud save? Please pay our online fee. I think most consoles are guilty of that one though. Fucking scalpers.) When it comes to hardware and their own first-party flagship offerings, Nintendo usually goes all out. Mario Odyssey and BotW both look great and push the system to its limits. Less so for "lesser" Nintendo games or even second-party studios. And hardware aside, the software on that hardware (i.e. the shop, the friends list, OS stuff) is so weak. So Nintendo as a free-floating entity doesn't strike me as us suddenly getting really nice looking Nintendo games that all run well, rather than basically just Mario-related games running and looking nice, but as Nintendo now not having the advantage of their own hardware to make other developers look bad on the sole system where you can buy said games. If, say, Microsoft bought them, that could be another story. Of course that presents its own mountain of issues, especially in the long-term when people like Phil Spencer are no longer at MS to guide them. He'd need proper successors who understand why the Xbox brand is slowly turning around from being a joke from last gen to something highly respected and whose announcements now command attention. Failing that we could easily see another Don Mattrick situation where everything falls apart because one guy joined and now leads the gaming division who fucking hates gaming. All that aside, I honestly think the pairing would be great, because MS has no qualms about putting their games on other platforms, especially the really big ones (Minecraft?) but they also seem to leave their devs nearly completely autonomous but also offer guidance and teach them how to use the hardware available. This is the kind of help I personally think Nintendo sorely needs, even as an independent company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Nintendo has been repeatedly putting out shitty re-releases on the Switch and in some cases charging $60 for them. 5 Ways Super Mario 3D All-Stars' Emulation Is Disappointing (& 5 Ways It's Exciting) GAMERANT.COM When Super Mario 3D All-Stars was released, many players were divided when finding that Nintendo used emulation to bring these games to the Switch. I'm referring to active and/or contemporary development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 BOTW's open world frame drops alone bring it down below "nearly perfect". I know it was improved with patches, but doesn't mean shit when it wasn't that way at launch when I played it. And from what I understand it still can't maintain a solid 30fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bacon said: BOTW's open world frame drops alone bring it down below "nearly perfect". I know it was improved with patches, but doesn't mean shit when it wasn't that way at launch when I played it. And from what I understand it still can't maintain a solid 30fps. A console launch game pushed to the limits by a Wii-U game according to @Xbob42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bacon said: BOTW's open world frame drops alone bring it down below "nearly perfect". I know it was improved with patches, but doesn't mean shit when it wasn't that way at launch when I played it. And from what I understand it still can't maintain a solid 30fps. Hence the qualifier. It definitely wasn't perfect, but compared to other open-world games, it puts most developers to shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: A console launch game pushed to the limits by a Wii-U game according to @Xbob42 Yes. Absolutely. I don't believe the Switch is much more powerful than the Wii U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, Chris- said: I'm referring to active and/or contemporary development. Mario 3D All Stars for the Switch is contemporary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chris- said: Hence the qualifier. It definitely wasn't perfect, but compared to other open-world games, it puts most developers to shame. It's not nearly perfect either tho, even compared to other open-world games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: Yes. Absolutely. I don't believe the Switch is much more powerful than the Wii U. Probably less powerful TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jason said: Mario 3D All Stars for the Switch is contemporary. A port is not contemporary development; those games weren't developed recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chris- said: A port is not contemporary development; those games weren't developed recently. The part where they put it on the contemporary hardware isn't contemporary? We're not talking about the quality of the original games, we're talking specifically about the quality of the ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jason said: The part where they put it on the contemporary hardware isn't contemporary? We're not talking about the quality of the original games, we're talking specifically about the quality of the ports. I am talking about the quality of the original games, that is what I have been talking about this entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Chris- said: I am talking about the quality of the original games, that is what I have been talking about this entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Jason said: It has been very clear that is what I was talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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