CitizenVectron Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Good. I mean, it's too late for the Democrats anyway since they will likely never control both houses of Congress + the Presidency at the same time ever again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 So feel free to donate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I mean, it's too late for the Democrats anyway since they will likely never control both houses of Congress + the Presidency at the same time ever again. I hate you guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Manchin's dumb-ass at least makes sense because he does represent WV, red as hell. When Sinema gets primaried out of her job she can pursue her true love: corporate lobbying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 1:37 PM, CitizenVectron said: Good. I mean, it's too late for the Democrats anyway since they will likely never control both houses of Congress + the Presidency at the same time ever again. Progressives thinking the democratic party can be "fixed" are blind anyway. They are not, nor have ever wanted to be Progressives. The best thing would be if both parties were destroyed, and multiple parties rose from the rubble, ending the two party system. Its been far too long since an American political party has failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Title is incorrect. It should read, "Campaign to primary Sinema with someone further to the left, but will ultimately result in a Republican replacing her seat, starts today." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Title is incorrect. It should read, "Campaign to primary Sinema with someone further to the left, but will ultimately result in a Republican replacing her seat, starts today." Mark Kelly is to her left and polls way better in Arizona than she does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Jason said: Mark Kelly is to her left and polls way better in Arizona than she does. Mark Kelly is also an American hero and husband to Gabby Giffords. That helps a tremendous amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Mark Kelly is also an American hero and husband to Gabby Giffords. That helps a tremendous amount. Arizona isn't West Virginia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Kelly is to her left in the same way that Joe Biden is: they're not conservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Kelly is to her left in the same way that Joe Biden is: they're not conservative Exactly. Sinema doesn't need to be replaced by an AOC or a Sanders (though of course that would be nice), she needs to be replaced by a nameless centrist Democrat who will vote with the party. She's a Democrat in name only—she's there to collect a cheque (or cheques, if you include the lobbyist money) and bask in the attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: Title is incorrect. It should read, "Campaign to primary Sinema with someone further to the left, but will ultimately result in a Republican replacing her seat, starts today." Arizona has trended left noticeably since even Obama. Not sure if you need someone trying to out-Manchin Manchin in Arizona, and I'm not sure it is a decent electoral strategy in a state that is not hardcore conservative. It just feels like you're making your base dislike you and stay home while not actually winning over conservatives. With the way Arizona is going, she can do a lot better for the next four years; she's not even up for reelection tomorrow. Who knows how much more liberal Arizona will become on more issues by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: Mark Kelly is also an American hero and husband to Gabby Giffords. That helps a tremendous amount. In a thread filled with people saying wrong shit, you shine above. Kudos, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason said: Arizona isn't West Virginia. Not with that attitude. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Joe said: In a thread filled with people saying wrong shit, you shine above. Kudos, sir. You think he would have won if he wasn't an astronaut and husband to Gabby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Title is incorrect. It should read, "Campaign to primary Sinema with someone further to the left, but will ultimately result in a Republican replacing her seat, starts today." I meant to quote this sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Arizona has trended left noticeably since even Obama. Not sure if you need someone trying to out-Manchin Manchin in Arizona, and I'm not sure it is a decent electoral strategy in a state that is not hardcore conservative. It just feels like you're making your base dislike you and stay home while not actually winning over conservatives. With the way Arizona is going, she can do a lot better for the next four years; she's not even up for reelection tomorrow. Who knows how much more liberal Arizona will become on more issues by then. If anything she's more likely to cost the Democrats her seat in 2024 given the disillusionment she's caused amongst the people who canvassed for her with the way she's behaved since getting elected, not even having any town halls since then. If she's the Democratic candidate again in 2024 why would they go out and campaign for her again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 hours ago, mclumber1 said: You think he would have won if he wasn't an astronaut and husband to Gabby? Yes, he won by the same margin Sinema did, also Biden won the state... So two other dems have won state wide races without being married to gabby or an astronaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Jason said: Arizona isn't West Virginia. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I can foresee her career trajectory: 1. Get primaried and lose her seat 2. Become a lobbyist 3. Become a go-to guest on Fox News 4. Write a book about how she got canceled, the book becomes a best seller because conservative groups lap it up 5. Bask in the knowledge that she not only has piles of cash, but screwed over the people who elected her to get it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: I can foresee her career trajectory: 1. Get primaried and lose her seat 2. Become a lobbyist 3. Become a go-to guest on Fox News 4. Write a book about how she got canceled, the book becomes a best seller because conservative groups lap it up 5. Bask in the knowledge that she not only has piles of cash, but screwed over the people who elected her to get it After obfuscating about her whereabouts, Ms. Sinema’s team finally told me to meet her at a bookstore in Phoenix for what was described as a round-table discussion with local businesswomen. When I got there, I encountered a highly unusual scene for a major campaign. There was nobody else at the event, just the seven businesswomen, Ms. Sinema and her highly attentive staff (one aide unwrapped a straw before carefully placing it in Ms. Sinema’s can of La Croix), me and a small CNN crew. She spent the 38-minute discussion — seemingly conducted purely for the benefit of The Wall Street Journal, where I worked at the time, and CNN — taking every opportunity to praise President Donald J. Trump and her meetings with him. When she was asked about child care, she said Mr. Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump was working on it. In our subsequent 13-minute interview, Ms. Sinema couldn’t name any topics in which she disagreed with Mr. Trump. When I asked what her younger self, who worked for Ralph Nader’s presidential campaign, would think of her in 2018, she said she would be “proud of the growth.” The Cocooning of Kyrsten Sinema - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM The Arizona senator has undergone a political metamorphosis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 No more gen x-ers in government 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ort Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 The subhuman scum who run Fox News won't shut the fuck up about this unbelievable horrific bathroom incident. I mean, yeah, it's not cool... that crosses an actual line to go into a bathroom... but has anyone actually watched the footage? I mean, give me a fucking break. It's the most harmless, whatever incident you can imagine. There was zero danger. There was nothing. I 100% agree the agenda and tone of the people who went into the bathroom (even though it is overstepping to go into a bathroom). She is right and Sinema is a fucking idiot and deserves never ended scorn and mockery. If she wants to act like an idiot and thrust herself into the spotlight at the expense of millions of people, then yeah, some people are going to get in your face. Your actions are hurting real people with real world problems who aren't millionaire senators. Fuck you Kristen Sinema. Anyway, with everything going on in the world, if you think (like Fox News does) that this nothing bullshit 3 minute bathroom incident should be the top news story of the day, on literally any fucking day in all of human history... then you are a completely warped and demented shitlord. You are not a serious person who can be taken seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 7:13 AM, ort said: The subhuman scum who run Fox News won't shut the fuck up about this unbelievable horrific bathroom incident. I mean, yeah, it's not cool... that crosses an actual line to go into a bathroom... but has anyone actually watched the footage? I mean, give me a fucking break. It's the most harmless, whatever incident you can imagine. There was zero danger. There was nothing. I 100% agree the agenda and tone of the people who went into the bathroom (even though it is overstepping to go into a bathroom). She is right and Sinema is a fucking idiot and deserves never ended scorn and mockery. If she wants to act like an idiot and thrust herself into the spotlight at the expense of millions of people, then yeah, some people are going to get in your face. Your actions are hurting real people with real world problems who aren't millionaire senators. Fuck you Kristen Sinema. Anyway, with everything going on in the world, if you think (like Fox News does) that this nothing bullshit 3 minute bathroom incident should be the top news story of the day, on literally any fucking day in all of human history... then you are a completely warped and demented shitlord. You are not a serious person who can be taken seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Joe Biden complains Kyrsten Sinema is ignoring his calls — but she talks to Mitch | Salon.com WWW.SALON.COM Sinema says she won’t negotiate publicly but Democratic leaders say she's not doing much negotiating in private either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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