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After a 12 year-long absence, "Law & Order" returns to NBC for its 21st season


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6 minutes ago, TheLeon said:

At this point on the TV landscape, Law & Order Classic seems almost quaint. There’s no real hook, no special genius detective or elite specialist squad, just detectives and lawyers doing going through their routines.

 

I'm fairly certain that's the "pitch" that got NBC to greenlight it.

 

It's a "back-to-basics" approach that contrasts with just about everything else currently in that genre.

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The original Law and Order series is great as almost every episode tells a complete story that doesn’t require you to have seen anything else in the series to enjoy, so it works well in the old framework of cable TV where you just watch whatever episode happens to be on that day. A lot of the stories and acting hold up pretty well even today, which is not the case for many shows that came out during the same time.

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29 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

The original Law and Order series is great as almost every episode tells a complete story that doesn’t require you to have seen anything else in the series to enjoy, so it works well in the old framework of cable TV where you just watch whatever episode happens to be on that day. A lot of the stories and acting hold up pretty well even today, which is not the case for many shows that came out during the same time.

 

This is the best part of the original series and the worst part of the spinoffs. Once they started delving too deeply into the personal lives of the detectives it lost me as being timeless, watch whenever, wherever TV.

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19 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

This is the best part of the original series and the worst part of the spinoffs. Once they started delving too deeply into the personal lives of the detectives it lost me as being timeless, watch whenever, wherever TV.


Absolutely. I think we unfortunately have moved so far towards serialized TV that we’ve left very little room for shows that make the setting and scenario the character we stick with from week to week. That means we need to have story lines where Liv struggles with work-life balance and what her identity is. Sorry Liv, your identity is great detective who solves crimes and cares for victims! 
 

But definitely compare a random SVU episode from the first few seasons to something from maybe 5-6 years ago and I think most would agree the older episode holds up better!

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4 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

I think we unfortunately have moved so far towards serialized TV that we’ve left very little room for shows that make the setting and scenario the character we stick with from week to week.

 

We see this all the time, people go nuts when they see an episode of The Mandalorian or even What If where “nothing happens.”

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1 hour ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

This is the best part of the original series and the worst part of the spinoffs. Once they started delving too deeply into the personal lives of the detectives it lost me as being timeless, watch whenever, wherever TV.

 

I honestly didn't bother remembering the names of any of the characters other than Lennie Briscoe.

 

For me the characters were:

- Lennie Briscoe's partner

- The Police Captain

- The DA Played Sam Waterston

- That DA's Boss

- The Lady ADA with Dark Hair

- The Lady ADA with Blonde Hair

- The Other Lady ADA with Blonde Hair

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32 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

I honestly didn't bother remembering the names of any of the characters other than Lennie Briscoe.

 

For me the characters were:

- Lennie Briscoe's partner

- The Police Captain

- The DA Played Sam Waterston

- That DA's Boss

- The Lady DA with Dark Hair

- The Lady DA with Blonde Hair

- The Other Lady DA with Blonde Hair

 

Yeah, I can't think of anyone's name other than Lennie's and I'm not sure if that's only because you just mentioned it right now.

 

51 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

Absolutely. I think we unfortunately have moved so far towards serialized TV that we’ve left very little room for shows that make the setting and scenario the character we stick with from week to week. That means we need to have story lines where Liv struggles with work-life balance and what her identity is. Sorry Liv, your identity is great detective who solves crimes and cares for victims! 
 

But definitely compare a random SVU episode from the first few seasons to something from maybe 5-6 years ago and I think most would agree the older episode holds up better!

 

The worst episodes of SVU are easily the ones that spent their 44 minutes on Liv's brother or Stabler's failing marriage. The world is so terribly small when Stabler's daughter just happens to be involved in some crime his very specific line of work involves him with. I don't want to have to keep up with Law and Order. Sometimes I'm just in the mood for some interesting crime to see solved. The original series was Saturday morning monster of the week for adults that enjoy dreary financial crimes or a good whodunit.

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